BI faction appearance dates

**Third spearman from the left** · 04-11-2007, 13:07

Quick question on BI, when new factions appear in the game are they set to do so at a certain date or can this vary in each game?

I'm playing my first BI campaign and the slavs appeared in 410 AD. I was wondering if they are set on random dates or tied into historical dates for each faction.

**professorspatula** · 04-11-2007, 14:00

The Slavs appear at a specific set date. The Romano-British appear whenever the West Roman Empire are kicked out of their British regions. The Ostro-Goths appear when a Gothic settlement rebels - or something along those lines. Hence you may not actually see them during your campaign. I think that's about it for emerging factions. If someone wants to correct me feel free.

In other news, that was my 1000th post. Hurrah!

**LuckyDog Trojan** · 04-11-2007, 19:22

Originally Posted by professorspatula

The Slavs appear at a specific set date. The Romano-British appear whenever the West Roman Empire are kicked out of their British regions. The Ostro-Goths appear when a Gothic settlement rebels - or something along those lines. Hence you may not actually see them during your campaign. I think that's about it for emerging factions. If someone wants to correct me feel free.

In other news, that was my 1000th post. Hurrah!

1,000th Post... WOW!

I know that there are several other posters who have hit that mark and well beyond. But still, that's quite a milestone professor !

**Leonidas The Lion** · 04-12-2007, 13:40

The huns appear at a certain date.
check the desc_events file.

**Third spearman from the left** · 04-12-2007, 13:43

The Roman Rebel Empires appear when a W or E Roman province rebels, but if they get wiped out can they keep returning when another Roman province or general turns?

Slavs, Romano-British and Ostro-Goths that is it for emerging factions? I thought there would be more, and the fact that they might not appear seems a shame.

One last question, can factions now re-appear in a rebel province they once owned, once they have been wiped out like in MTW? I know about horde mode but I noticed that a rebel province I took, rebelled against me becoming a Samation (sp?) province.

**Leonidas The Lion** · 04-12-2007, 14:45

Yes that is true it has also happpended to me I think only the barbarian factions can re-emerge.

**professorspatula** · 04-12-2007, 15:36

Once a faction is dead, it's dead. There's no magic re-appearance like in MTW where you crush a faction 10 times only for it to return yet again with another gold peasant army which kill all your knights. The exception to the rule are the West and East Roman rebels which pop up whenever there's a disloyal General or one of their cities' rebels. If a faction that hordes loses it's last settlement and every one of its family members and soldiers is killed at the same time, it can still horde - it's happened to me. But that's the nearest to a re-emergent faction as you get. The example of a settlement rebelling and becoming Sarmatian owned is probably just a loyalist rebellion like what happens occasionally in RTW. There must still have been a few Sarmatians on the map for them to gain the settlement. Sometimes you can't see them, but if you look at the mini-map there will be a star giving away their position if they're in horde mode.

As to the Huns appearing at a set date, er... they start the game on the map already chap. It is possible it's left over code for the White Huns which never made it to the finished game.