total war 3

[Will_YouFight_ForME]

we can dream, but if there is ever such a game
i hope for an expanded rome total war

that'll be the day!

what are you thoughts?

[Foot]

There's already been 4 total war games, so the next one would be number 5.

I guess that Rome as the setting for the next one is very likely, its still a popular era. Napoleonic is another big contender, but with the Lordz starting their own studio, CA might not want to bust in there, in fear of competition. If there was a significant rise in interest for Chinese history (All the "crouching tiger hidden dragon"-esque films are an indication of this) a total war of the three kingdoms or even earlier would be a fantastic change from the Euro-centric games at the moment.

Foot

[CrownOfSwords]

I heard there is much talk about Greece total war which I would love, make it run up until the time of alexander now that would be cool! please in the love of god no chinese total war

[Foot]

I heard there is much talk about Greece total war which I would love, make it run up until the time of alexander now that would be cool! please in the love of god no chinese total war

Why not? If your not interested in that time-period, fair enough, but I could say the same thing about Greece total war, in which case we have not accomplished anything. Some of the periods possible I'm not interested in at all, but they would still make great settings for the total war games. I also had another thought, been reading up about the Assyrian wars with Urartu, and that would make an amazing time period for all out war. You just need to read some of inscriptions they made to record their conquests to realize how much damage they did to these regions.

Foot

[Maeran]

Why not Chinese Total War? The original game in the series was set in Japan.

I like the idea of Warring States (I think there's a mod, but I'm a little wary of downloading yet another mod) China, I think it works well for the TW game mechanics. You could even have the Emperor represented by the senate/pope thing. Sun Tzu as an ancillary with a command bonus

But I would like to see a new game in the pike and musket period. It just sneaks in at the end of M2TW but other than the cossacks RTS I think this period is poorly served.

[Randarkmaan]

I would much like a Total war game set from around 600-500 BC to the time of Alexander. With the map covering all of Iran, but not going as far north as in Rome, parts of India should also be included. You could start with the rise of the Persian Empire and end the game with its fall after being conquered by Alexander. That would be fun, factions could be various Greek city states and colonies, Lydia, Persia, Media, Babylon, Egypt and many others.

Otherwise I would prefer far earlier, with the focus on Egypt and the Middle-East. One reason to do this is that the Assyrians should be included in a game, they were one of the first to conquer a large empire, and they fielded the world's first largely professional army, plus they were really, really brutal.

[Elminster12]

Why not? If your not interested in that time-period, fair enough, but I could say the same thing about Greece total war, in which case we have not accomplished anything. Some of the periods possible I'm not interested in at all, but they would still make great settings for the total war games. I also had another thought, been reading up about the Assyrian wars with Urartu, and that would make an amazing time period for all out war. You just need to read some of inscriptions they made to record their conquests to realize how much damage they did to these regions.

Foot

I love Chinese history....but I almost think TK era is a bit of a trap. If they wanted to truly depict the variety of the Three Kingdoms, they'd have to up the complexity a little. Most certainly, they'd need a decent logistics engine and a very careful portrayal of how vital the Chang Jiang was to Wu. Otherwise, Wei will just steamroll both of the southern kingdoms. It also doesn't help that many of the nomadic peoples on the border(like the Xiong Nu) weren't in great shape either. I think Warring States would be better, as much as I love TK. China as we know it wasn't even "China" yet.....if they did some research, they could....well, that settles it, they're going TK!

But yeah....China has 4,000 years of history and spent at least half of it in civil war, I'd wager. Good setting.....

Edit: Oh, they'd absolutely need to have an actual naval battle system. It would be absolutely criminal to NOT have Chi Bi under historical battles because they were too lazy to bite the bullet and do it...

[kalkwerk]

Most important for me would be a total war game with less war. Ive played so many battles now that im gettin negative traits from it.

[Ritterlichvon86]

World War I - Total War, or Empires - Total War. I would love that.
The battlemode would be extended, see Sudden Strike 2 as example. Still, you enter combat with the units you built before.
Still, there would be a campaign map with cities - just like in MTW2. The map is extended to America and Africa. However, it needs to be innovative! The cities could be great city-like areas - with pre-built trenches, tank traps, and more. Trenches could also be built before battle - using a similar system as with the longbowmen in medieval. If you fight in the countryside, you might even encounter a few villages that might form hotspots in battle. Fighting on your own ground can be dangerous to farms, however fighting in your own settlements can be devestating.

There is infantry, riders, and a few tanks who are barely as fast as the riders. Cities have action radii around them, so if you are in range, you might be able to call in a small airstrike of light aircrafts (no bombers yet in WW1).

Factions would be like France, The British Empire, Prussia, USA, CSA, Mexico, Austria-Hungary, Poland, The Ottoman Empire, Jugoslavia, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Russia.

New and interesting building systems, settlements can become colonies and give the holder more wealth than the dried out, but high teched european regions who produce the finest soldiers of the known world.


Be Napoleon and conquer the world, unite the USA or build your own British Empire.

Civilize the south americas as Spanish Conquistador or become the Kaiser of Germany.


The Total War team might want to reinvent many parts of their games and to avoid a too simple sequel.

[Ower]

Jugoslavia, didn't exist, before and in WW I. It began as the kingdom of the Serbs, Chroats and Slovinians (spelling?)as a result of WW I

[Ritterlichvon86]

Oops, thank you

[mlc82]

I'm going to second something based around ancient Egypt, Bronze Age: TW or something (Babylonians, Assyrians, Hittites, etc).

I just can't imagine how anything with WWI could be fun, unless you turn it into some awful Company of Heroes type of game with weapon ranges being ridiculously short.

[Enguerrand de Sarnéac]

One about the time of the French-Prussian war, and the Crimean war and other 19th century conflicts. Europe devastaded after the Napoleontic wars, uncountable evolutions in society, also in warfare and tactics. Worldwide, total war... Could be interesting; economic warfare for China and India; America uniting, splitting, uniting again and slowly becoming the great unstoppable (?) war machine of the 20th and 21st century. The Russian Empire in its glory and its struggle; the British Empire in its apparently never ceasing glory on the surface, Prussia as post-Napoleontic war machine...Some minor factions at the start of the game of course.

Factions would be Ottoman Empire, Prussia, France, Greece as an infant state, Victorian Britain, Russian "Arche Seleukeia" Empire, Tokugawa Japan (Meji Reforms! )...

It would start somewhere a few years after Napoleon's Doom at Waterloo, perhaps 1920 or 1930 would be nice...Before Victorian Britain... Awefully lot of economic structures and evoluations of course, this would open doors!
Could end a few years before WW I, still somewhere in the 19th century, perhaps 1901 (Queen Victoria's death if I recall it well)

Concerning unit selection the player would witness the rise of fire armed professional troops, uniformed units (awwww... ) like redcoats or the blue US troops, the decline of horse mounted units (the total disappearance was only in the first World War), beginning with hussars and dragoons after Napoleon, and going through the Prussian reforms of Bismarck and the Kaisers... if one plays as Japan or eastern factions there would be a significant difference in warfare, so one has to be very careful...

Verrry intersting time, just too much to tell...Maybe even just too much to trust the CA...

[alatar]

Nah, WW1 is not a fun bases for a game.
Has to be somthing where you can fight hand to hand.

[mAIOR]

I'd love a WWII total war... It would be awsome :)


Cheers...

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

If anyone has "Total War Eras", there is a bonus DVD included with it. On it the head of Creative Assembly explains how and why they chose the eras that they did for Total War games. He says something about needing "many factions vying for power" and "change in technology" for them to choose and era.

Just a hint to what might be in the future for Total War, based on their opinions of good time periods.

[CountArach]

I don't care when it is, because regardless of when it is, CA will butcher it. :P

As long as it is moddable and the AI/Diplomacy is above average, then I will be happy.

[blank]

CA should leave the graphics as they are and focus on AI, diplomacy and, if there's time left, naval battles.

If they did that i wouldn't care what era it was
Sadly, it's not going to happen

[alatar]

Actually have faith, in 20 years game graphics will be a good as there ever going to get and then they'll have to work on the ai.

[Orb]

Raso, if you do not change that sig, I will send naked 2HP barbarian loonies to your house.

[NeoSpartan]

Ok I like a lot of the proposals BUT we don't need no RTW2!

Come one fellas..... think...

EB=RTW2, and EB2=RTW3

If you think I am wrong, play vanilla RTW and you will see what I mean......

[-Praetor-]

Raso, if you do not change that sig, I will send naked 2HP barbarian loonies to your house.

You`re such a nagger...

[Tretii]

Personally i would be interested in the game set in dark age times. The fall of Roman empire, the whole collapse of civilization, mass hordes of barbarians, the feeling of apocalypse really. That would be THE game, baby.

[cunctator]

Late Bronze Age: Total War with a 1550 BC -1200 Bc timeframe. A rather well known but rarely used period that saw the climax of chariot warfare and offers lot's of interesting factions. Like the Hittites, Mycenaeans, New Kingdom Egypt (at this point still the part of upper egypt controlled by Thebes), Minoans, Mitanni, Kerma, the Hyksos etc. while none of them is a superpower yet.

As map area maybe something like this:

[Xtiaan72]

I doubt they will do Greece Total War considering Rome did an Alexander expansion. What I wonder is if there will be a third Medieval expansion before Total War 3. I think that is totally possible considering that's what they did with Rome.

I love the Total War series. They are the only games that stay on my hard drive and probably always will. But has anybody noticed that in the reviews for Medieval 2, it got slightly lower scores than Rome do to the fact that the interface really hasn't changed much for the entire series. In other words the engine and graphics have improved but it's starting to feel like 'more of the same'.

I really think they should put a lot of thought into modernizing the interface and introducing completely new directions in the game such as naval combat and a completely overhauled diplomacy system. Imagine amphibious assaults on blockaded ports. Battles that start as naval combat and end with troops wading on to beaches and fighting to secure a foothold.

As far as Total War 3, I think they should come full circle and do another Shogun but expand the map to include China, Korean and Mongol faction.

[nstarun]

I doubt they will do Greece Total War considering Rome did an Alexander expansion. What I wonder is if there will be a third Medieval expansion before Total War 3. I think that is totally possible considering that's what they did with Rome.

I love the Total War series. They are the only games that stay on my hard drive and probably always will. But has anybody noticed that in the reviews for Medieval 2, it got slightly lower scores than Rome do to the fact that the interface really hasn't changed much for the entire series. In other words the engine and graphics have improved but it's starting to feel like 'more of the same'.

I really think they should put a lot of thought into modernizing the interface and introducing completely new directions in the game such as naval combat and a completely overhauled diplomacy system. Imagine amphibious assaults on blockaded ports. Battles that start as naval combat and end with troops wading on to beaches and fighting to secure a foothold.

As far as Total War 3, I think they should come full circle and do another Shogun but expand the map to include China, Korean and Mongol faction.

Actually, i can definitely see Greece being the primary setting for the next TW game. There is rich diversity between the city-states, from governmental organization to military philosophy, and they were in constant competition with each other. Furthermore, there were significant technological developments from, say, 600-Alexander's era.

The primary reason for this setting, however, has to be CA's need to make a return on their investment - as was said earlier, ancient greece is hot right now 300 was a huge movie which wont be soon forgot and that equates to free marketing.

As for modernizing the interface, so right. The series has become somewhat stagnant and needs a face lift. If I were in charge, players would have a lot more input on influencing the direction of their faction. Decisions on military organization (eg. slow and powerful infantry vs. speedy ranged armies), political or religious organization, etc.