FireFakes ?

[LeftEyeNine]

The following site claims to nullify the urban legends about Firefox which has always been famous for being the secure and faster way to surf the web.

Whaddaya think ?

Here goes.

[AntiochusIII]

Whaddaya think ?

Here goes.

Bah. Propaganda.

Yes, I've read it. Yes, there's a lot of myths about Firefox and this site points out quite a few flaws and, well, myths about it. But if you read carefully it's clearly very petty-minded.

Example: the comparison of systems requirement. It claims that Firefox requires a higher system requirement than IE, then proceeds to prove itself wrong. It compares Firefox's recommended to IE's minimum and then call it on Firefox! WTH!?

Or the market share thing. It puts the point about IE regaining market share, short and sweet with no trace of doubt, then proceeds to question Firefox's share as may be we should take it with a grain of salt.

Though I must admit references to Opera's capability is quite interesting. Ah well, it's not like I need more than one browser type.

[caravel]

Example: the comparison of systems requirement. It claims that Firefox requires a higher system requirement than IE, then proceeds to prove itself wrong. It compares Firefox's recommended to IE's minimum and then call it on Firefox! WTH!?

Considering most of IE is already running anyway, as it's part of the OS and just uses the explorer process for it's UI, it is pretty obvious that Firefox is going to be bigger than IE. The rubbish about running IE6 on a 486 is laughable. You would need to run on Windows 95 anyway, because 16MB of RAM and a 486/66 is just too low spec for Windows 98/98SE/ME. The "faster from a cold start" claim is also ludicrous, as IE6 is always running anyway. I'm not claiming that FireFox blisteringly fast, because it definitely isn't. It has been getting progressively more bloated like the Mozilla Suite before it.

[TevashSzat]

Firefox IMO is much better simply because my school computers are awful and takes like 5 min to get onto googel using IE, but it is about 500% faster when firefox is used

[Husar]

Most of you somehow missed that...

Opera

is clearly superior to IE and Firefox concerning speed, security and almost everything else as well.

I was about to quote all the relevant parts, but I'm gonna let you search them yourselves.

[Crazed Rabbit]

I've run the older (v6, I think) IE and firefox, on a 180MHz, decade old machine. Both run about the same, but firefox has built in pop-up blocker. Win: firefox.

IE7 helps a lot into pulling microsoft even, but this myth page looks like a hack job.

CR

[Pannonian]

Most of you somehow missed that...

Opera

is clearly superior to IE and Firefox concerning speed, security and almost everything else as well.

I was about to quote all the relevant parts, but I'm gonna let you search them yourselves.

Opera is superior to Firefox in performance, but Firefox is more customisable. I usually start with Firefox, then switch to Opera if the page doesn't work on FF. It says a lot that I recently saw a screenshot and didn't recognise the browser. Then I looked closer and saw IE's e in the corner. It's been a few years since I last used IE (thanks to a certain worm), and I haven't missed it.

[sapi]

Considering most of IE is already running anyway, as it's part of the OS and just uses the explorer process for it's UI, it is pretty obvious that Firefox is going to be bigger than IE. The rubbish about running IE6 on a 486 is laughable. You would need to run on Windows 95 anyway, because 16MB of RAM and a 486/66 is just too low spec for Windows 98/98SE/ME. The "faster from a cold start" claim is also ludicrous, as IE6 is always running anyway. I'm not claiming that FireFox blisteringly fast, because it definitely isn't. It has been getting progressively more bloated like the Mozilla Suite before it.

I'd also like to point out that that's just because IE is prefetched by default; ff isn't

[Husar]

I'd also like to point out that that's just because IE is prefetched by default; ff isn't

That's why he points out that Opera still starts faster than ff.

[Phatose]

To be honest, I'm having trouble believing there are all that many occasions where browser speed, not simple connection speed, will be the limiting factor in browsing speed.



As for the security claims, I have to wonder if reported issues are a good metric of actual security. Somehow, I doubt there are really all that many people out there looking with criminal motivation to find security holes in Opera, since it's such a small target. Fewer users will find fewer holes, and malicious software is generally going to attack the richest grounds. I'd reasonably expect Opera to have very few documented holes, firefox to have more, and IE to be buried in the things - which, if I'm not mistaken, is exactly what we see.


As for Opera - well, I haven't had enough issues with firefox to merit switching to another browser. It even took me a good while to ditch IE, which was burdened with issues thanks to it's market-leader bullseye. Additionally, the claims of it being standards-compliant worries me - in practical terms, I don't give a baboon's buttocks whether or not it complies to standards that aren't really standards since they're the only ones who follow them, but whether or not it complies to the way things are actually done in the wilds of the intarweb. Standards compliant would seem to imply that it's doing things differently then IE, and simple reality is that many, many more webpages are designed for IE then for WC3 standards. How well does it deal with pages designed for IE?

[Tran]

Here goes the battle between IE maniacs and Firefox addicts!

By the way, I smell fire...I should leave immediately!

[AntiochusIII]

Here goes the battle between IE maniacs and Firefox addicts!

By the way, I smell fire...I should leave immediately!

IE sucks.

Mind you, there are really cool browsers out there that nobody knows like Opera and M...something (not Mozilla) and all that. But IE? Naaaahh...

[LeftEyeNine]

Mind you, there are really cool browsers out there that nobody knows like Opera and M...something (not Mozilla) and all that. But IE? Naaaahh...

LOOK ! THAT'S AN EMO BRITNEY SPEARS ! NO THAT'S A JOHN-WOO-SLOWED FLYING KICK ! OH NO, THAT'S VINCE CARTER ON VIAGRA ! NO, NOT ANY OF THEM !

THAT'S MAXTHON ! MAXTHON ! MAXTHON !

[AntiochusIII]

THAT'S MAXTHON ! MAXTHON ! MAXTHON !

Ah, finally!

That's what I was thinking. Thx.

[Stig]

Heh, do I care. I use Firefox because it's more user friendly imo