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    Default Re: Projection of power: Soviet Union and the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by hellenes
    What about the north and the Bering Strait?
    Anway in the case of a huge disruption of the wealthfare and way of life of the Americans I doubt they could sustain it...
    Also we shouldnt forget Cuba and otehr leftist Latin American states...
    If the Ruskies attempt to attack us through Canada they'll be slogging through dense tundra and forests taking casualties the whole way for essentially worthless gains, and drag Europe into it along the way. It would probably take them several months to get anywhere near a part of Canada that is actually valuable, and by then we'd probably have organized quite a resistance. That and a nuclear war would spark before they reached the continental United States....And if China tried it they'd spark a nuclear war and be immobilized and starved by air superiority and naval superiority.

    Oh and as to the Latin American states they are not a viable military threat at the moment. The US navy would sink their navies, and the greatest gain they might manage is taking the Panama Canal and Guantanamo Bay. Oh and any other small islands or tiny bases we happen to have in the region.

    In the forseeable future the only major threat to the US is our own idiotic military adventures abroad (which really only do major damage on an economic level) and the economic rise of China.
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    Default Re: Projection of power: Soviet Union and the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Uesugi Kenshin
    If the Ruskies attempt to attack us through Canada they'll be slogging through dense tundra and forests taking casualties the whole way for essentially worthless gains, and drag Europe into it along the way. It would probably take them several months to get anywhere near a part of Canada that is actually valuable, and by then we'd probably have organized quite a resistance. That and a nuclear war would spark before they reached the continental United States....And if China tried it they'd spark a nuclear war and be immobilized and starved by air superiority and naval superiority.

    Oh and as to the Latin American states they are not a viable military threat at the moment. The US navy would sink their navies, and the greatest gain they might manage is taking the Panama Canal and Guantanamo Bay. Oh and any other small islands or tiny bases we happen to have in the region.

    In the forseeable future the only major threat to the US is our own idiotic military adventures abroad (which really only do major damage on an economic level) and the economic rise of China.
    You are assuming, wrongly I believe, that russian and chinese generals are idiots. I don't think it is the case.
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    The only viable avenue of attack for the Soviets would've been through the heimat into Western (and Southern) Europe. And they knew it. From there, it's a waiting game: with a greatly expanded collection of non-freezing ports, good old Ivan could've started building a real blue water navy for a change. Only then could he have threatened the USA.
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