Virginia Tech shooting

**Crazed Rabbit** · 04-17-2007, 03:50

I'm agreeing, Ichigo.

With so many dead, it is hard to believe this was just some Joe Blow who picked up a couple of guns and started shooting.

That's what I thought, too. Heck, I thought 22 was high.

CR

**Sasaki Kojiro** · 04-17-2007, 04:06

Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit

I'm agreeing, Ichigo.

That's what I thought, too. Heck, I thought 22 was high.

CR

It sounds like he planned it and knew what he was doing.

I'm doubtful it would have been different if guns had been allowed on campus. Who would carry their gun to class? Guy had body armor anyway.

**KukriKhan** · 04-17-2007, 04:31

In keeping with our usual Backroom protocol, as details come in (like body armor, weapon used, etc), please provide links, so our fellow readers know we're not making things up or merely spreading rumors.

We're a smart bunch of fellows here; let's help each other, and our readers, gain some perspective. Covering the coverage, and drilling down to salient issues, is what we do best here. Let's show our stuff.

**Sasaki Kojiro** · 04-17-2007, 04:46

Originally Posted by KukriKhan

In keeping with our usual Backroom protocol, as details come in (like body armor, weapon used, etc), please provide links, so our fellow readers know we're not making things up or merely spreading rumors.

We're a smart bunch of fellows here; let's help each other, and our readers, gain some perspective. Covering the coverage, and drilling down to salient issues, is what we do best here. Let's show our stuff.

http://cbs11tv.com/education/local_story_106164729.html

Shooter described as "heavily armed and wearing a vest". People say different things about his weapons. Either two 9 mm's, a 9 mm and a .22... or a 9mm and a 22 mm (snicker).

**Adrian II** · 04-17-2007, 05:33

@ Ichigo. The Chicago-Sun Times report certainly vindicates your view that shooters are often bullied, tormented types. The fact that their anger and despair build up over a period of time is said to be a good thing, it means that sometimes a proactive policy will filter them out.

@ Seamus Your point about Hobbes is noted. I have an unpredictable schedule today and I'm off to catch a train right now, but I will get back to you.

**Csargo** · 04-17-2007, 05:52

Originally Posted by Adrian II

@ Ichigo. The Chicago-Sun Times report certainly vindicates your view that shooters are often bullied, tormented types. The fact that their anger and despair build up over a period of time is said to be a good thing, it means that sometimes a proactive policy will filter them out.

@ Seamus Your point about Hobbes is noted. I have an unpredictable schedule today and I'm off to catch a train right now, but I will get back to you.

Aye, sorry I didn't make my views clearer in the first place.

**Crazed Rabbit** · 04-17-2007, 04:39

Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

It sounds like he planned it and knew what he was doing.

I'm doubtful it would have been different if guns had been allowed on campus. Who would carry their gun to class? Guy had body armor anyway.

I know some guys who'd carry guns to class.

Would it had made a difference? I can't say it would've for sure - but it would've been a chance to stop this before so many were killed, even if it was a small chance.
VT stopped permit holders from carrying, supposedly thinking they can somehow prevent stuff like this, but this proves that such a rule won't do crap against people who are going to harm others.

CR