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    Default Anyway to get improved AI from BI into regular RTW with EB

    Hello All. My queston is this,

    I have heard that the AI from BI is better than regular RTW such as more aggressive AI and that the AI actually use their ships! I dont have BI only RTW and was wondering if their was a patch or mod to adjust the RTW AI to BI AI, and if this would work EB so I could get more interesting game play. I doubt this is possible but I figured I might as well ask. Also thank you to everyone who worked on the EB mod It is absolutely astounding how much work has gone into it thanks.

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    Default Re: Anyway to get improved AI from BI into regular RTW with EB

    Unfortunately, no. RTW1.5 has better AI than 1.0 or 1.2, but in order to have the BI quality AI, you have to run using the BI.exe. And thus, you have to have bought the BI expansion. (Though it shouldn't cost too much anymore.)


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    Default Re: Anyway to get improved AI from BI into regular RTW with EB

    Thanks but I heard that there are some problems running EB on BI have these been resolved or are there still major issues?

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    Default Re: Anyway to get improved AI from BI into regular RTW with EB

    Quote Originally Posted by Gtard
    Thanks but I heard that there are some problems running EB on BI have these been resolved or are there still major issues?
    It wasn't designed to work on BI, so obviously there are some incompatibility. Too my knowledge they are that you cannot play custom battles and you have to access the game through the provinical campaign menu (which stops you from choosing certain options) though this is less of a problem. What major issues were you referring to?

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    Default Re: Anyway to get improved AI from BI into regular RTW with EB

    Quote Originally Posted by Gtard
    Hello All. My queston is this,

    I have heard that the AI from BI is better than regular RTW such as more aggressive AI and that the AI actually use their ships! I dont have BI only RTW and was wondering if their was a patch or mod to adjust the RTW AI to BI AI, and if this would work EB so I could get more interesting game play. I doubt this is possible but I figured I might as well ask. Also thank you to everyone who worked on the EB mod It is absolutely astounding how much work has gone into it thanks.

    all you need is the bi.exe program. So someone here can upload it on a website and you can download it (it's only around 10-18 megabytes anyways)
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    Default Re: Anyway to get improved AI from BI into regular RTW with EB

    Quote Originally Posted by Intranetusa
    all you need is the bi.exe program. So someone here can upload it on a website and you can download it (it's only around 10-18 megabytes anyways)
    Thats called stealing, and thats not allowed on this forum for obvious reasons. I would stay away from this reasoning. Anyway it wouldn't matter, you still need the actual BI folder as well, so I don't think this would work (as far as I know).

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    Lightbulb Re: Anyway to get improved AI from BI into regular RTW with EB

    Quote Originally Posted by Foot
    It wasn't designed to work on BI, so obviously there are some incompatibility. Too my knowledge they are that you cannot play custom battles and you have to access the game through the provinical campaign menu (which stops you from choosing certain options) though this is less of a problem.
    Not necessarily: if you copy the EB folder into the BI folder you can play custom battles, and don't need the provincial campaign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludens
    Not necessarily: if you copy the EB folder into the BI folder you can play custom battles, and don't need the provincial campaign.
    Hmm I hope your right. I am playing with the BI.exe and through the main campaign. I don't really care about custom battles but can't you tell if you are using BI just by looking in "options" what version you have running (BI=1.6).
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    Default Re: Anyway to get improved AI from BI into regular RTW with EB

    Here: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...3&postcount=85

    Follow these simple instructions to get custom battle and campaign working as they were intended.

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    Well thanks for all your advice guys I got BI and so far the AI is a vast vast improvment.

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    I got BI, but am playing EB on the 1.5 RTW. What's so improved with the BI AI except the propensity to conduct amphibious invasions?

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    Default Re: Anyway to get improved AI from BI into regular RTW with EB

    Well, if you modify the EDB or download one of the unofficial mods then certain units can get shieldwall and swim abilities.

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    Default Re: Anyway to get improved AI from BI into regular RTW with EB

    Well I also have BI but Iam playing on 1.5. Becouse I gott tired of all the dumb land invasions... And its much easier to roleplay with 1.5..Cheers

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    Lightbulb Re: Anyway to get improved AI from BI into regular RTW with EB

    Quote Originally Posted by Dubius Cato
    I got BI, but am playing EB on the 1.5 RTW. What's so improved with the BI AI except the propensity to conduct amphibious invasions?
    The A.I. seems to perfom slightly better on the campaign map, but apart from the naval invasions that's about it.
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    I have actually noticed a big difference on the battle map as well. Such a much more aggressive AI. On RTW 1.5 half the time the other army would run up and run away and I have noticed the AI actually tries to flank me I have even lost a few battles and unless I was playing BI on very hard battles, or rarely on hard, that usually never happended.

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    Lightbulb Re: Anyway to get improved AI from BI into regular RTW with EB

    I am a bit in limbo on the difference in battlefield A.I. Yes, in BI it occasionally tries to flank, but this also happened in R:TW. I do not have the impression that I am suffering significantly more casualties in BI, so I don't think the difference is substantial. I have no conlusive evidence either way, though.
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    Yeah. I haven't noticed but the slightest difference in AI, but I have noticed that it tends to suprise me a lot now. In city fighting, they'll have units come out of nowhere and flank me and surround me all the time; in 1.5 that never happened.

    But I mostly like it for shieldwall and warcry.

    How does swimming work? At a river crossing, do you just walk a unit up to the water and click the button?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyabedes of Aphrodisias
    How does swimming work? At a river crossing, do you just walk a unit up to the water and click the button?
    Even simpler: the unit will go into swimming mode when they reach water. This does have a few unfortunate effects though: they will drown when they get exhausted (but they do not avoid water when routing), and also that they practically refuse to use bridges.
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    Default Re: Anyway to get improved AI from BI into regular RTW with EB

    Quote Originally Posted by Ludens
    This does have a few unfortunate effects though: they will drown when they get exhausted (but they do not avoid water when routing)
    Oh...my...god

    That's almost as funny as the aquatic trebuchet picture from MTW2!

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