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    England was called England. England did not become a part of Normandy. The Duke of Normandy assumed the position of King of England. As soon as William the Conqueror died the two positions were separated again for a while, until Henry I invaded Normandy and put out his brother's (the Duke's) eyes. Also, in geographical terms, "England" referred to the area England now occupies and nowhere else. Scotland, Wales and Ireland were most definitely not part of "England". The only areas of variation would have been the Welsh and Scottish marches.

    Although England was ruled by a bunch of people we now refer to as Normans, the only people who generally called them Normans at that stage were the Normans. To the English they were "Franks" and to the French anyone who came from England was "English".

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    What were the Turks, Hungarians and Poles known as?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Memnoch
    What were the Turks, Hungarians and Poles known as?
    Interestingly I just looked up what the Byzantine Empire was actually called and it was called by its native Greek name Ρωμανία, which translates into Rōmania, or Βασιλεία Ρωμαίων, which translates into Basileia Rōmaiōn.

    This is a direct translation of the Latin name of the Roman Empire, Imperium Romanum. The name Byzantine was not used until 1557 and is based upon the original name of Constantinople (Byzantium)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Didz
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    The name Byzantine was not used until 1557 and is based upon the original name of Constantinople (Byzantium).....
    Slavs and bulgarians in the balkan peninsula called Byzantium "Tzarigrad" (City of Kings or smth like that) and the byzantians themselves "romey" or "vyzantiitzi" (romans and byzantians) so i guess the name depends on what angle you look at it from. And, wasnt the byzantine empire gone in 1557? as far as i know the turks conquerered Constantinople in 14-something...

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    Constantinople was taken in 1453 by Mehmet II.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phunkbot
    Slavs and bulgarians in the balkan peninsula called Byzantium "Tzarigrad" (City of Kings or smth like that) and the byzantians themselves "romey" or "vyzantiitzi" (romans and byzantians) so i guess the name depends on what angle you look at it from. And, wasnt the byzantine empire gone in 1557? as far as i know the turks conquerered Constantinople in 14-something...
    Yes, that's what I believe is didz point... The "byzantines" were never called that by anyone other than historians centuries later.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore
    Yes, that's what I believe is didz point... The "byzantines" were never called that by anyone other than historians centuries later.

    Sorry, i forgot that part, i beleive we did call the state Byzantium after what Constantinople's name used to be

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore
    Yes, that's what I believe is didz point... The "byzantines" were never called that by anyone other than historians centuries later.
    I heard that this is the equivalent of calling present day Americans "Washingtonians."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirrvs
    I heard that this is the equivalent of calling present day Americans "Washingtonians."
    Not really. It would be the equivalent of calling americans whatever-the-continent-of-america-was-called-before-it-was-called-america'ns
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by Memnoch
    What were the Turks, Hungarians and Poles known as?
    The turks were first the Seljuk turks, then the ottoman empire.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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