Music, songs, etc., that you dislike (or hate)

[GeneralHankerchief]

Well, I'm not going to label you like that: I won't operate on such irrational responses in these conversations :|

If their music sounds simplistic to you, short, similar, etc., then that's a simple fact. And people talk of how groundbreaking they were, etc., you get annoyed thereby? Simple fact and a subjective reaction. Your claim that they are nothing special: subjective. And you are entitled to it all.

Now let us be objective. Truth of the matter is they were / are special as their music was much more complex than other "pop music" of the time. Inventive, original, creative, etc. Even now pop bands can't come up with their highly creative forms of music (and here I'm specially referring to their later music).
Many chord progressions for example nowadays are simple as usual, back then too, while they -- the Beatles -- were more experimental AND succesful throughout the whole world.

To musically experiment (being original, etc.) AND to actually make good music AND to be popular are things that usually don't mix. They require many factors to deal with, and most music-doing people cannot have their brains function in a way or ways that includes all necessary human qualities of music-doing people.
There are the simple normal musicians, bands, and composers who copy and imitate, are average, etc., and there are the ones who stand out.

First of all, I agree with most of the stuff you said.

No doubt, the Beatles were groundbreaking and inventive. But that was 40 years ago. Since their rise and fall, a good amount of bands have built on what they have done and improved upon it, in my opinion to the point that they put John & co.'s music to shame.

What I have a problem with is how people ignore the continued evolution of rock. Most people continue to say that Sgt. Peppers' is the greatest concept album ever made, just because of its freshness and the fact that nobody had ever seen anything like it before. In my personal opinion, its successors, such as Tommy and Dark Side of the Moon leave it in the dust and don't make it sound that special anymore.

The Beatles do deserve credit for what they did. But they don't deserve to be called the Greatest Band of All Time simply for that. There are plenty of bands out there that sound better then them and greatly improved on their sound; why should they not be rewarded just because they didn't come first?

[edyzmedieval]

Rap haters! May the dinosaur smilie get you!

[Orb]

'Rap haters!' - At least you got us to acknowledge that it's theoretically a type of music.

[Sardo]

I'm so out of touch with the wonderful world of 'music' (^and I'm not even going to acknowledge rap as a type of music^) that I don't even know the names of all the stuff I don't care for/ dislike/ hate. One might go so far as to say that I'm musically challenged. For instance:

BeBop: you can play fast, now play somethign good

The only Bebop I'm familiar with is the place on the Tiense where I have a few drinks occasionally with friends. Incidentally, Albert Niland performed there last Monday, and I was moved to buy his cd on the spot. No clue what label to slap on him, though.

So basically, turn on the radio or tune in to MTV (or something similar), and there will be a huge chance of me disliking whatever they're playing.
Also,

however Dutch and German slagermusic should only be played during carnaval

I hold a special place of pure disgust in my heart for schlagers (my father likes Laura Lynn and Frans Bauer ) and I hate carnival with the burning intensity of a thousand desert suns. Instead of scantily clad ladies like they have in Brazil, we get a festival of distaste where I live, complete with the aforementioned bad bad music. Why yes I'm a grouch, why'd you ask?

[Incongruous]

Hate to say it, but almost every American band I have ever heard, sounded like cack when I had the choice of British bands.

Hate Emo and Screamo, Hardcore Metalcore, that pussy american heavy metal stuff, slasher music, jazz, rap and it's associates, some of the cack brit pop stuff like the A monkeys (ugh!).

I do like Oasis and Kasabian though
Maiden, Genesis Led Zep, the fab four, TooL, Vivaldi, Camel, Opeth, Porcupine Tree, Evermore, MUSE, Elton.

I like alot of stuff.

Song I hate the most... hmm... the 200 olympic song, "absalutley everybody, everybody everybody, absalutley everybody! in the whole wide world! Everybody dreams and everybody breathes, absalutley everybody" Uhg, oh dear god i rememeber it! Ah it will be in my head as I sleep.

[doc_bean]

The only Bebop I'm familiar with is the place on the Tiense where I have a few drinks occasionally with friends.

Also known as bebop, Bop was a radical new music that developed gradually in the early '40s and exploded in 1945. The main difference between bop and swing is that the soloists engaged in chordal (rather than melodic) improvisation, often discarding the melody altogether after the first chorus and using the chords as the basis for the solo. Ensembles tended to be unisons, most jazz groups were under seven pieces, and the soloist was free to get as adventurous as possible as long as the overall improvisation fit into the chord structure. Since the virtuoso musicians were getting away from using the melodies as the basis for their solos (leading some listeners to ask "Where's the melody?") and some of the tempos were very fast, bop divorced itself from popular music and a dancing audience, uplifting jazz to an art music but cutting deeply into its potential commercial success. Ironically the once-radical bebop style has become the foundation for all of the innovations that followed and now can be almost thought of as establishment music. Among its key innovators were altoist Charlie Parker, trumpeter Dizzy Gillespie, pianist Bud Powell, drummer Max Roach, and pianist/composer Thelonious Monk. -- Scott Yanow

Essentially: a bunch of very fast solo's which barely contain melody or structure and are utterly uninteresting.

No rhythm changes, wha ?

It's common knowledge it's only good in mixes.

It's all basic 4/4. But you're right that some DJs can actually turn it into something halfway decent.

On Rap:Hip Hop:

I view it as a modern kind of 'folk' music (like country). The lyrics are almost always more important than the music, there's often a message and because of the simple song structure it's almost universally accessible.

On Rock:

I find most recent bands pretty uninteresting for some reason, maybe because I'm getting old, but the last great 'new' band were imho the White Stripes, I haven't had a 'wow, great new band' moment since them. I still don't get what's supposed to be so great about the Artic Monkeys for instance. And I find Coldplay highly overrated, though their songs do have a nice sing along feel which is often their saving grace, the music itself is often too repetitive (just a chord scheme repeated over and over) for my taste.

On Schlagers:

Shhh we've got the Americans convinced that we Europeans are refined and sophisticated, don't bring this up !

[edyzmedieval]

'Rap haters!' - At least you got us to acknowledge that it's theoretically a type of music.

Rap is basically a single/double/triple beat and also has a text, which combines with the beat. It's classified into different cathegories...

Old school rap (Nas), Pure rap (Eminem - his old songs, and some of his new ones...) and others...Rap is basically about expressing hardships, not all this new ****.

Hip hop is basically a funky beat, with different texts. It's not actually a music, it's something like... I don't know, it's something weird, and it makes perfect dancing music. All these new guys are from the hip hop part, like the Black Eyed Peas or Nelly.

So, it's a music.

[Bijo]

First of all, I agree with most of the stuff you said.

No doubt, the Beatles were groundbreaking and inventive. But that was 40 years ago. Since their rise and fall, a good amount of bands have built on what they have done and improved upon it, in my opinion to the point that they put John & co.'s music to shame.

What I have a problem with is how people ignore the continued evolution of rock. Most people continue to say that Sgt. Peppers' is the greatest concept album ever made, just because of its freshness and the fact that nobody had ever seen anything like it before. In my personal opinion, its successors, such as Tommy and Dark Side of the Moon leave it in the dust and don't make it sound that special anymore.

The Beatles do deserve credit for what they did. But they don't deserve to be called the Greatest Band of All Time simply for that. There are plenty of bands out there that sound better then them and greatly improved on their sound; why should they not be rewarded just because they didn't come first?

Hmmm... that they put them to shame? It sounds like subjective opinion.

The evolution of rock? Hmmm... the Beatles were everywhere and it's not just "rock". I don't know about those two things you bolded, though, so I will have to check that out sometime. But I see you speak with opinion again, therefore I must question even more if these supposed successors leave them in the dust.

They do deserve The Greatest Band of All Time title, because they were great in a time when it was very difficult to be great in what they did. For example in the later days people relied more and more on technology and still made ****. As if they "let music technology" do the music for them, instead of doing the music themselves. The Beatles achieved great music-doing and did so with inferior facilities compared to what there was later, and later there were people still able to make rubbish even if technology grew and better facilities appeared.

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Add to my list: COUNTRY! But I do like the "funny kind of country" that actually sounds not so bad like when a couple of southern farmers with a mouth harp, singer, fast banjo, an empty liquor bottle -- that has a couple of XXs on it -- to blow on, and a little improvised choir, play some stuff

[Scurvy]

dislike anything that isn't metalic...

[naut]

I like prog-rock, so I'm relatively odd

I used to hate it, but now I like it. I love Pink Floyd, for which I blame Beirut.

What do you all mean by Modern Punk? What bands?

Pretty much anything made after 1990.

[The_Mark]

Schlagers, oh God. What I've heard of German schlagers, they're a lot better than the Finnish variant, which is everywhere.

Rap. Fer cryin' out loud, aren't you supposed to have a melody in somewhere?

'Rap haters!' - At least you got us to acknowledge that it's theoretically a type of music.

I wouldn't go that far. I'd say it's more like poetry reading with someone/-thing giving a beat, and if we try to evaluate rap as poetry reading, well, gah.

Then there's Cannibal Corpse and other hardcore black/death metal bands. I mean, growling? All the time?

Britney Spears and lookalikes? Disgusting.

(Language please - Beirut)

[Beirut]

I used to hate it, but now I like it. I love Pink Floyd, for which I blame Beirut.

My pleasure.

[Boyar Son]

Wow alot of disliking toward rap...

They're ***** now, its the same thing over (cars, money, girls). I lsten to hip hip around the world and they not making it better everyone back in the 80's and 90's were muucchh better then now.

EDIT: oops back then they also talked about cars, girls, and money. But did it better and didnt bore you to tears with it.

(Language - Beirut)

omg!, sorry beirut! lol lol!! didnt know that was also considered a curse word. Unless I wrote the S word...I cant remeber...

[master of the puppets]

i forgot to mention, reggae (if thats how its spelled) is terrible, even if i was'nt on pot that stuff would put me to sleep... except for the song about tallying bananas, that one just makes me feel warm and fuzzy.

[edyzmedieval]

i forgot to mention, reggae (if thats how its spelled) is terrible, even if i was'nt on pot that stuff would put me to sleep... except for the song about tallying bananas, that one just makes me feel warm and fuzzy.

I like raggae. Love the funky beats, bananas, dreadlocks, women in bikinis and cannot-understand-anything lyrics.

[Quietus]

1) Celine Dion The terror...the horror....

2) (an extremely distant second) John Tesh/Kenny G/Yanni.

I'll spare naming the others....If I expand the list, a lot of guys will be ticked off.

i forgot to mention, reggae (if thats how its spelled) is terrible, even if i was'nt on pot that stuff would put me to sleep... except for the song about tallying bananas, that one just makes me feel warm and fuzzy.

"Day-O" isn't reggae though.

edit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cew3ljEp22k <--acoustic Reggae (awesome cover of bob marley's Natural Mystic).

who doesn't like Reggae and Bob Marley?

Bob Marley has 217,000+ friends on myspace

www.myspace.com/bobmarley

[Beirut]

1) Celine Dion The terror...the horror....

Thanks for the link. Listening now. Great stuff!

" ...'cause I'm your ladyyyyyyyyy"

[Martok]

Beirut, your ability to disturb me remains undiminished (even when I'm 99% sure you're kidding).