I bin defeated. Horribly. For the first time ever... And the AI made smart moves.

[Zaknafien]

I have never, ever, ever seen hastati or principes rout. What on earth are you doing to make them do so?

[Tellos Athenaios]

Fighting on VH battle difficulty, having them running into a phalanx at the front standing on the high ground? It's easy to waste entire units of Silvershiled Phalanxes against Pantodapoi Phalanxes IF the pantodapoi stand on top of the slope, so why not Hastati... ?

[edyzmedieval]

I am proud of my generals and my army.

And proud of you Dayve, because you offered them fresh meat.

[Dayve]

I have never, ever, ever seen hastati or principes rout. What on earth are you doing to make them do so?

Fighting uphill battles against 3 star generals with freshly recruiting units and a green general.

Fighting on VH battle difficulty, having them running into a phalanx at the front standing on the high ground? It's easy to waste entire units of Silvershiled Phalanxes against Pantodapoi Phalanxes IF the pantodapoi stand on top of the slope, so why not Hastati... ?

I'm on medium battle difficulty, hard campaign difficulty...

I am proud of my generals and my army.

And proud of you Dayve, because you offered them fresh meat.

CARTHAGO DELENDA EST!

[Zaknafien]

why in the name of god would anyone ever fight uphill? the entire point of battles in antiquity was maneuvering to fight in a position of power, not weakness.

[Dayve]

why in the name of god would anyone ever fight uphill? the entire point of battles in antiquity was maneuvering to fight in a position of power, not weakness.

Because the game doesn't tell you what type of terrain you're going to be fighting on before you enter a battle... And i don't save/load unless something daft happens, like getting a crushing defeat and losing 1600 men to a city with 1 4 star general and his 60 bodyguards and 1 unit of liby-pheonecian spearmen, despite having a full legion of over 3000... Which happened to me earlier btw.

[Zaknafien]

if the terrain doesnt agree with you, march your army off the field.

[Wolfman]

Sounds like a battle I had playing the Aedui. I was assaulting Aventicos. The settlement had some Mori Gaesum in it along with a few levies, Light Calvary, And a Heavy Calvary unit acting as a Bodyguard. I thought It would be a normal settlement battle with bad AI me pushing them to the town center and killing them to the last man. I was WRONG! They held me at the gate with their pikemen and sent the levies and Calvary Behind My front line and slaughtered my general. Then surrounded my units who were stuck fighting at the gate and slaughtered them. None of my troops survived the battle. I was playing on VH/VH.