Wife is a Wretch! v1.2 Fixes it!

**edyzmedieval** · 04-18-2007, 09:29

That's even worse really. Historically, the princesses went to the faction she got married into, not the general comes into yours!!!

**Durallan** · 04-18-2007, 10:06

Originally Posted by edyzmedieval

That's even worse really. Historically, the princesses went to the faction she got married into, not the general comes into yours!!!

I have to explain this more then. When you go to a diplomacy with another faction with one of your princesses and that factions heir is single and you marry that princess to the factions heir she will become a part of that family.

HOWEVER...

In this game, I stress, game here, The Princess agents can steal enemy generals and they can become a part of your family. There are different outcomes when a princess agent attempts this.

1. She succeeds and the General decides that it would be more fun being a part of your family and so he comes over to your side. (I'd like to note that the faction you steal him from doesn't like you doing that at all and your relations with that faction will suffer)
2. She really likes him and decides it would be better to join his family, and you lose both of them.
3. He rejects her proposal, upsetting her greatly.

Its not really worse because historically Generals probably would have joined another army if they were offered to become part of the royal family in a big empire! ( It's a different way of bribing a general that you want which is more likely to succeed and bring you lots of happy little generals and princesses afterwards too, without having to spend tens of thousands of florins)

There was a bug with this though, when the general accepted and he became a general in your army, he and his bride didn't appear on the family tree (even though he was in your faction on the map), when they should have, it seems they have fixed this bug in the 1.2 patch.

What you seem to be talking about is diplomatic marriages which this isn't about, its more about the stealing generals mission actually works now, instead of both the princess and general disappearing off your family tree, they are now on your family tree. However if she does decide to run off with the general they both won't be on the family tree.

I hope this clears it up for you edyz.

**RickooClan** · 04-18-2007, 13:50

I could understand if my princess decide to follow her new husband and disapear from my family tree. But why would the enemy general disappear as well?? If this is intented or merely a bug?

**Bob the Insane** · 04-18-2007, 14:36

Note that the princess can't steal Family Members only unmarried generals...

To be honest I didn't realise this was broken, unless the mod I am playing with fixes it somehow...

I often steal the HRE starting generals...

**Durallan** · 04-18-2007, 15:29

@ Rickooclan, the Enemy General doesnt join your army at all if he seduces her, she marries him and so they marry in the faction you were trying to steal him from.

@ Bob, The Princess can steal Family Members and Generals, as long as they are unmarried. I did this with my danish princess to a Hungarian Family Member in about turn 201 (I can provide screenshot/savegame if you wish). I seriously doubt this was a Starting General that wasn't in the Hungarian Family Tree ;). The problem was that if you did marry the princess to the general/family member she and he would still be in your faction but not in your family tree, and now they appear correctly.

**gardibolt** · 04-18-2007, 15:52

I would never have noticed this bug; the family tree gets checked by me once every 100 turns or so. As long as I have the general on the board to use, that's pretty much all I care about. Bugs in the family tree seem like the lowest priority possible things to be fixing.

**Durallan** · 04-18-2007, 16:50

Originally Posted by gardibolt

I would never have noticed this bug; the family tree gets checked by me once every 100 turns or so. As long as I have the general on the board to use, that's pretty much all I care about. Bugs in the family tree seem like the lowest priority possible things to be fixing.

every 100 turns?

(do you really play that much M2TW?

) I check it fairly often, depending on whats going on. It isn't a high priority bug, but when you have generals turning up out of nowhere that aren't on your family tree it messes things up a bit and if its a good general you want to provide good traits for sons down the line, well you won't even know if hes had any kids. I guess this isn't a high priority fix, but thats a rather

attitude to be taking, at least its been fixed, and if you do like your family trees its better

I would have never noticed the shield bug, or the 2HD animation bug, but someone did, I guess it depends where you really concentrate on in the game, I concentrate more on empire building than the battles, I enjoy them as a side dish if you could say that.

The comment about it being the lowest possible priority fix is rather irrelevant considering that they had a list of bugs or things to fix for 1.2, and they attempted to fix as many of those as possible. As it stands now theyre trying to make sure the siege AI is no longer passive, so I don't know what this remark is in aid of.