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    Uber Soldat. Member Budwise's Avatar
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    Default What exactly is this two handed bug?

    I understand the shield bug but what is up with the two handed bug? I tried searching but the search options suck here and it was more hard than it should have been.
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    Default Re: What exactly is this two handed bug?

    Units with the "2H Axe" animation, which includes bill and pollaxe users, cannot attack cavalry in a standing melee.

    Furthermore their attack animation is very slow, which forces them to parry incessantly over the course of a battle.

    Spearwall polearm, Eastern halberd and 2H sword units do not have this problem.

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    Cynic Senior Member sapi's Avatar
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    Default Re: What exactly is this two handed bug?

    To give an example (which is by no means perfect) from my own experiences:

    Step 1: Send 4 units of Varangian Guard against a rebel town (fighting militiamen)
    Step 2: Climb to top of walls. Take 10% casualties in approach
    Step 3: Watch the varangians get not one kill as they are slaughtered
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    So this includes norse axemen, but not janissaries then? What about woodsmen?

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    blaaaaaaaaaarg! Senior Member Lusted's Avatar
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    Default Re: What exactly is this two handed bug?

    List of units affected by the bug:

    Dismounted English Knights
    Dismounted Noble Knights
    Dismounted Portugese Knights
    Free Company Men-At-Arms
    Gallogiach
    Gallogiach Mercs
    Woodsmen
    Croat Axemen
    Tabardariyya
    Mutatawwi'a
    Billmen
    Bill Militia
    Heavy Billmen
    Heavy Bill Militia
    Norse Axemen
    Varangian Guard
    Berdiche Axemen
    Last edited by Lusted; 04-18-2007 at 18:14.

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    Default Re: What exactly is this two handed bug?

    Ghazi? Don't they have only one axe? Or do you mean the other-jihad-unit-who-cannot-be-spelled?
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    Default Re: What exactly is this two handed bug?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lusted
    List of units affected by the bug:

    Dismounted English Knights
    Dismounted Noble Knights
    Dismounted Portugese Knights
    Free Company Men-At-Arms
    Gallogiach
    Gallogiach Mercs
    Woodsmen
    Croat Axemen
    Tabardariyya
    Mutatawwi'a
    Billmen
    Bill Militia
    Heavy Billmen
    Heavy Bill Militia
    Norse Axemen
    Varangian Guard
    Berdiche Axemen
    So those useless and overrated Transylvanian peasants with halberds are not affected then? Trust it to be the only ineffectual 2H unit to not be affected.

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    Default Re: What exactly is this two handed bug?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lusted
    List of units affected by the bug:

    Dismounted English Knights
    Dismounted Noble Knights
    Dismounted Portugese Knights
    Free Company Men-At-Arms
    Gallogiach
    Gallogiach Mercs
    Woodsmen
    Croat Axemen
    Tabardariyya
    Mutatawwi'a
    Billmen
    Bill Militia
    Heavy Billmen
    Heavy Bill Militia
    Norse Axemen
    Varangian Guard
    Berdiche Axemen
    I find it Ironic that 5 of those on the list are from England. Also can Scots recruit Gallogiach? Cause in my last campaign as them (Highlanders rule!) I only had Highland nobles as my main base of infrantry and never saw the Gallogiach as anything but Mercs.

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