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    Default Is the AI Cheating in M2TW on VH?

    Is it cheating by the AI that allows an AI faction the following?
    Settings VH, VH, Turn 100, AI faction is Spain
    1. The faction has only had one Fortress at Toledo and no cities for better than 10 turns. The Income is supposedly 1350 florins per turn.
    2. The only port for that lone fortress has been blockaded for better than 10 turns.
    3. This faction fields 2 armies. The first army consists of 2 Family Members (@250 each), 2 Feudal Knights (@250 each), 1 mailed Knight (@250), 5 dismounted Feudal Knights (@225 each), 1 javelinman (@100), 1 Almughvar (@150?), 2 peasants (@90 each), 2 Jinrettes (@150), Crossbowmen (@100), and a second army consisting of a family member (@250), 2 feudal knights (@250 each), 2 javelinmen (@100 each), 3 peasants (@ 90 each), and 1 catapult(@150 each)
    Total upkeep of Army 1 ~= 3255
    Total upkeep of Army 2 ~= 1370
    Grand Army upkeep per turn ~= 4625

    That is better that 3 times what a human player could afford per turn playing as Spain. Sounds like cheating by the AI to me. Whats your take on it. We all know that this is just a game so that's not even head down that road.

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    Default Re: Is the AI Cheating in M2TW on VH?

    The AI gets extra cash on VH.
    It's not a map.

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    has a Senior Member HoreTore's Avatar
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    Default Re: Is the AI Cheating in M2TW on VH?

    Yup, they get a money boost on VH.

    Btw, you forgot about the kings purse here, for spain, that's 2500 per turn.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Default Re: Is the AI Cheating in M2TW on VH?

    Where is the King's purse shown at?

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    Default Re: Is the AI Cheating in M2TW on VH?

    I would hope it cheats on VH. Money plus lots of other advantages, to at least have a shot at being competitive with the player in the early stages. That said, usually the only way to get a really hard game in these empire sims is through modded campaigns with scripts designed for the purpose.


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    Default Re: Is the AI Cheating in M2TW on VH?

    Quote Originally Posted by DukeKent
    Where is the King's purse shown at?
    Push " f " on your keyboard and it will show you the finance scroll which you can find the king's purse there.

    btw, anyone know on VH how much extra money the AI got? And if all factions have the same amount?

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    I don't know how much extra it gets but King's Purse is different for every faction.
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    Default Re: Is the AI Cheating in M2TW on VH?

    Kings Puse for Spain is 2500 per turn.

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    Default Re: Is the AI Cheating in M2TW on VH?

    From the Descr_Strat file.

    Kings Purse 500 denari ? (florins)
    Slave.

    Kings Purse 1500
    France, HRE, Sicily, Scotland, Moors, Egypt and Papal States.

    Kings Purse 2000
    Milan, Turks, Denmark, Byzantium and Portugal.

    Kings Purse 2500
    England, Spain, Venice, Russia, Poland and Hungary.

    Kings Purse 3000
    Mongals and Timurids

    Kings Purse 10000
    Aztecs

    Towards the end of my VH/VH England campaign I exiled the Pope to Ajacco. He was the only unit garrisoning the settlement and had no PO or financial trails/retinues.
    I had a fleet blockading the port, 3 assassins destroying all his building, and 5 spies causing unrest.
    Yet he still managed to keep the PO at 105. Had an income of over 2000 and support 4 full stacks on the mainland.

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