Civilization, War, and so on.

[Pindar]

Are you equating being civilized with pacifism?

Hmmm. No. In my second post here I spoke of good and bad civilizations. A good one has not only progressed -- in what some of you have said like Stig, like treatment of their citizens, and so forth -- but also in the pursuit of peaceful international coexistences.

A "bad civilization" is one not pursuing peace and has low care activity for its citizens, etc., and even worse, is waging war.

So I guess what I'm saying is that a civilization can be high on the level of technological, financial, etc., progress, but civilization is also about a society it depicts, and aggression / war is the evil part, while peace is not.

It sounds like you conflate 'civilized' with 'civilization' and 'civilization' with 'nation'. This is not a normal approach.

So any nation engaged in war is a bad?