Hi all MTW Players!

[Warluster]

Hi all!

I am a big RTW player and recently M2TW player, and I put off gettign STW or MTW for reasons like campaign map and graphics.

The oter day I saw MTW for $5, and I bought it.

Now I ahve no regrets, and am ashamed for not wanting it before, who cares about flashy graphics!? The gameplay is awesome, and I have to say, i thought the graphics were going to be badder then they were.

I don't have VI yet, but am hunting in shops and on line for a cheap deal.

So I have a few questions.

What are good mods for MTW (Not VI)?

And whats the best faction in terms of Military and Economy.

[King of Bavaria]

Hi

Prove me wrong, but as far as I know, there are no mods that don't require VI.

The economy dosn't depend on the faction, just on the provinces and the buildings there.
It's just that some factions that start with some well developed or particulary rich provinces (i.e. Venice, Constantinople) have some advantages.

The question for the best faction in terms of military is an unending story.
Just a question of your personal taste and your preferred way of warfare.
I personally like the units of the Byzantines in early or Hungary (I'm not quit sure if playable in vanilla MTW), but there are several other good ones.

[axel]

Hi mate
welcome yes i think the the wes mod https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=50854&page=16
http://wes.apolyton.net/ i think the MTW 1.1 is for MTW

[nara shikamaru]

Well there is the Medmod 1.85, by Wes Whitaker, whichis a pretty good mod, despite not adding any new factions, he just makes it a little easier for the computer not to screw up, well here's the link to where you can get the mod.

http://wes.apolyton.net/

[Tony Furze]

Touche! Three in one! Great stuff. Thanks, nara and axel. Hope all that helps Warluster.

[Warluster]

Thansk for the links and help everyone.

I am gonna go off and try the Aragonese (as you suggested Omanes) and maybe the Italians.

If I did get VI would the XL mod eb the best? And do Mtw/VI mods have their own folders? or do I have to copy and paste the main folder?

[Noir]

XL is the one that retains and expands the gameplay of vanilla, both in the campaign and in the battles. It is a good piece of work and as all other mods a love affair for their creator, i guess. However it is not the best IMO. It may seem so if you are coming straight out of vanilla - however i find that other mods have just as much if not much more to offer.

The other two most popular mods relative to the period are the BKB supermod and the afformentioned WesWhitaker's Medmod. There are a few others, and even some in the works, like the Pocket Mod.

Several other mods are worth trying such as the Napoleonic, by the lordz (that now went and formed their own company), cegorach's epic Pike & Musket with its 1000+ units, and the Hellenic, not to mention the fall of Rome and the LOTR mod.

Enjoy MTW, and after that give STW a try or at least the MTW mod for it: Barocca's Samurai Warlords with several contributors and tweaking by a team of MP veterans that ensures you'll get quite a few tough battles - for some it's even better.

RTW and M2 are IMO thoroughly degraded and popularised versions of the original TW concept/vision and ultimately not worth it.

For installation purposes, you can use the self installers that most mods provide to either install the files to a directory of your choice and then copy paste them in the main MTW folder or directly target the main MTW folder with the installer its the same thing.

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Hi Warluster,
I'm sorry to say that, for M:TW alone, there are very few, if not, no mods. Sorry.

As for a good faction, I would suggest the Aragonese. Although they may only have one province to start with, that province is very wealthy and has deposits of Iron which allow you to build the weapon smith line which increases your troops weapon quality. They are also blessed with nearby rebel provinces which are both, reasonably, easy to conquer and easy to bribe with the immense amounts of cash that pour in every turn! Also, if you bribe Valencia, you get a nice, and famous, general to add to your forces. The General is also an almighty "campaign hero" who has the tendency to become an even greater general than he already is at the start! Even better, to add onto all that, you get a dirt-cheap elite unit trainable at the start too - Spanish Jineettes!

Hope this helps you, enjoy your mighty conquests, cheers!

[Tony Furze]

Hello Warluster. The best mod for MTW vanilla-no VI is Wes Whitakers medmod:

http://wes.apolyton.net/

There are a few others that are generally not worth using.

All the best.

[The Unknown Guy]

As for a good faction, I would suggest the Aragonese.

Poisoned advice! Aragon is not playable without VI, I think

Warluster, buying just MTW and not VI is a tactical mistake I almost commited myself, as you can get the whole "gold" (MTW + VI) package. If you want the VI invasion pack, I´d go for the "gold" version, and store the other copy of MTW . It´s only 5 bucks, so it´s not a big loss

[Noir]

Some of the more easy going factions: Egyptians + Byzantines in the early era.

I'd say that there isn't a best faction militarily, the idea was that they should all have rosters that account for different fighting styles. The game has failed to provide this with a sense of balance however most mods address the issue to a larger or lesser degree.

All in all, all factions are worth trying and are fun to play, even in the (dreaded for me) vanilla.

Noir

[Martok]

Hey Warluster, good to see you discovered the joy that is MTW!

Poisoned advice! Aragon is not playable without VI, I think

Warluster, buying just MTW and not VI is a tactical mistake I almost commited myself, as you can get the whole "gold" (MTW + VI) package. If you want the VI invasion pack, I´d go for the "gold" version, and store the other copy of MTW . It´s only 5 bucks, so it´s not a big loss

Unfortunately, The Unknown Guy is correct: Aragon is not playable in vanilla MTW, nor are the Hungarians or Sicilians -- you need Viking Invasion in order to play those three factions. I strongly second Guy's recommendation that you puchase MTW Gold Edition (or Activision's old MTW Battle Collection, if you can find it). You should be able to find it pretty cheaply (15-20 U.S. dollars); it's unlikely you'll find just Viking Invasion as a stand-alone purchase. The VI expansion pack adds a tremendous amount of gameplay to the vanilla game, as well as allowing you access to most of the mods that are available.

All that said, for your first faction I would recommend the Spanish or the Almohad Caliphate. Both start with good lands income-wise, and both have a a decent troop roster as well. In particular, the Almohads' Urban Militia and the Spanish Jinnettes are both war-winning units that will form the heart of your armies.

[Warluster]

Okay,

I went onto the faction select thing and there was no aragonese, I sort of panicked. Now I realise!

and how about the mod folders, do MTW/VI have there own mod folders?

I am defintely gettign VI now!

[seireikhaan]

You don't have to get VI right away, since, IMO, it would be suicide to try and do your first one or two campains as Sicily, Hungary, or Aragon. My personal preferances? The Danes, Spanish, and Turks.

Danes- Incredibly easy to defend, can get a powerful navy going quickly, and they get vikings right away. Plus they have relatively easy access to good provinces, like Sweden(the best in the entire game, IMO) Lithuania(income), Ireland(gallowglasses), and Norway(trade and vikings with extra valour).

Spanish- Powerful crusaders, good landscape, and the almighty Spanish Jinettes at their near immediate disposal. Plus, its pretty much a straight path to drive the Almos back. And maybe its just me, but I always seem to get an AWESOME family line going with them.

Turks- Great variety of troops, including several hybrid infantry/archers. Plus, a (somewhat cheap) "ransom the Sultan trick", in which you blitz the Egyptians right away at Jerusalem, thus trapping the Sultan in Antioch/Tripoli and getting a nice bonus for your cash. Plus, they have access to three of the best troops in the game, IMO. Armenian Heavy Cavalry(because they can be trained with 2 valour from Armenia rather quickly), Janissary Infantry(the equivalant of a Chivalric Men At Arms, but swapping some extra armour for a bow), and Janissary Heavy Infantry, which just dominate nearly everything you throw at it. Lastly, some very rich provinces to take from Egypt.

EDIT: I would advise against the Byzantines, for two reasons. One, they have no decent spearman, which I consider a must in the majority of my armies. Two, they are literally RIGHT in the crosshairs of the Mongol invasion, and I would advise against fighting them much for your first campaign. Plus, the two problems compound each other. Fighting the Mongols with no decent spear can be VERY tough.

[Roark]

Boyars are the best all-rounders/hybrids in the entire game (given that Sipahis of the Porte only have 20 men). Rah.

G'day Warluster. Good to see another Aussie.

[Zild]

Hi, Warluster.

I know you don't need any more convincing, but having recently just dropped back down to v1.1 briefly, I was reminded of some of the sweet improvements in VI:

• Ability to save before battles (useful if you don't have time to fight it, or think you may wish to re-fight it).
• Ability to organise appearance order of reinforcements before battles.

I'm sure there are a lot of little features added to the campaign map which make things quicker and easier, too (I think the V&V summary is new?)

[Warluster]

G'day Warluster. Good to see another Aussie.

Bloody Oath, nowadays theres heaps of us Aussies on the .Org!

Hi, Warluster.

I know you don't need any more convincing, but having recently just dropped back down to v1.1 briefly, I was reminded of some of the sweet improvements in VI:

Ability to save before battles (useful if you don't have time to fight it, or think you may wish to re-fight it).
Ability to organise appearance order of reinforcements before battles.

I'm sure there are a lot of little features added to the campaign map which make things quicker and easier, too (I think the V&V summary is new?)

Thanks. Though if I get VI I will mainly get it for the MTW campaign.

[King Kurt]

Good to see the ruler of Bohemia on this board.

The Viking game in VI is well worth doing - it gives a different set of challenges and is generally a shorter game. The Europe game is much wider with many different challenges but the Viking game has some real challenging strategic issues to struggle with - especially as most provinces can have the Vikings pop up in them without notice. Particuarly early on the Viking troops pack a punch and you have to second guess them if you wish to defeat them.