Fallout 3 discussion

**tibilicus** · 04-10-2008, 19:21

Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine

Well I'm not one of those "oh look they'll ruin it !11" kinda allergic fan.

But this is more and more turning into a despair for me, rather than sn excitement of years behind, after seeing that we can nuke some places with a gun in hand and all flaws already and overly expressed in the "masterpiece of its release date": Oblivion.

The "shiny paint" coat Oblivion had was worn out as time rained over it and people came to see that it was not a RPG after all.

To be honest I couldn't agree with you more though. It was good till the main quest was over but then really is there any point to me doing side quests? I couldn't become the infamous outlaw thief I wanted to mainly because the AI guards would follow and harass you till you ended up in prison.

(n)

**TB666** · 04-10-2008, 23:46

A gamespot preview
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/...opslot;title;1
Sounds nice IMO.

**tibilicus** · 04-11-2008, 00:18

"According to a Bethesda representative, the primary game is shaping up to have somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 hours of gameplay"

Quote from that article. Not sure if it's just me but I normally expect a lot more hours worth of gameplay out of a game than that. Fair enough BIoshock was great and I did that in 18 hours but I to got the feeling then that whilst great, the replayability factor was low.

**TB666** · 04-11-2008, 01:00

Originally Posted by tibilicus

"According to a Bethesda representative, the primary game is shaping up to have somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 hours of gameplay"

Quote from that article. Not sure if it's just me but I normally expect a lot more hours worth of gameplay out of a game than that. Fair enough BIoshock was great and I did that in 18 hours but I to got the feeling then that whilst great, the replayability factor was low.

Well pretty sure that there will be downloaded content, expansion packs and as stated in the article, multiple ways of doing things. All these things will add to actual gameplay.
In Bioshock there was only one way of doing things. Sure there was the to kill or not to kill children thing and gave you a different ending but overall that had little to no effect on actual gameplay since the game played out exactly the same.

Hopefully just like in Fallout(and from the sound of things) you will have a reason to go back do things differently.

**TinCow** · 04-11-2008, 01:40

To be fair, the full quote is:

"According to a Bethesda representative, the primary game is shaping up to have somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 hours of gameplay, though it will offer dozens of hours of other stuff to do for players who enjoy exploring side quests and other types of content."

The way I'm reading this is that the main storyline is 20 hours, but that's without doing any side quests. I definitely wish the main storyline was longer than that, but the total game time looks more like 20 + "dozens" of hours. Sounds to me a lot like Oblivion in its length, with a pathetically quick main storyline but far more to do on the sides.

**Fragony** · 04-11-2008, 07:35

Short storyline suits me just fine if the replay value is high enough, and it looks like it will be.

**Lemur** · 04-11-2008, 16:00

Finally, the world is catching up with Fallout. Soon you will be able to buy Rad-X and RadAway.

**Veho Nex** · 04-17-2008, 02:30

Is beth going to turn into the next EA games. Killing our favorites one game at a time? or will they become the gods of the gaming world, reviving our favorites one game at a time!

**TinCow** · 05-31-2008, 21:51

I have just returned from a 5 hour session of playing Fallout 3. The NDA I had to sign limits what I can say to an extreme extent, so my comments will be pretty vague. Please don't ask me any specific information about the game, because I cannot divulge it.

As Whacker well knows, I was somewhat skeptical coming into the game. I enjoyed Oblivion, but it could have been much better, and I thought it was a significant step down from Morrowind. Fallout 3 is definitely far more like Oblivion than it is like Fallout 1 and 2. On the surface, this comment will disappoint many people. However, a lot of the flaws in Oblivion have been rectified in Fallout 3. I'm pretty sure I can't say what those are, but Bethesda has definitely learned from a lot of their errors.

That's not to say the game is perfect. There are still many aspects that could use improvement. I can tell you for a fact right now that hardcore NMA-style fans of Fallout will hate this game. However, everyone who liked Oblivion will love it. I think a large number of people who didn't like Oblivion will love it as well, due to the improvements that have been made.

I don't think it's a game that is going to stand up well against some of the classic RPGs of yesteryear, like Fallout 1, Fallout 2, Planescape Tormet, etc. This is not an old-school RPG and you shouldn't expect it to be. However, it will certainly hold its own against the current generation of RPGs. I think it will turn out to be on par with Vampire: Bloodlines. Possibly better, possibly worse. All in all, I think it will be worth buying and I think you'll get your money's worth of entertainment.

Oh, and the modding community is going to go nuts over it.

**TB666** · 05-31-2008, 22:09

So have they decided to allow the game to be moddable ??
Because in the last interview they haven't decided yet(would be stupid if they didn't make it moddable, Oblivion is pretty saved thanks to the mods).