Fallout 3 discussion

[Vladimir]

I've heard its all over Metro Center (as usual, the epicenter of WMATA advertising) but there's nothing on my normal route (Vienna -> McPherson). Are they the 'flip-book' style ads in the tunnels like they've been doing on the red line, or just posters in the stations?

Dude, you don't understand: I was in the vault.

Yes, a little over dramatic but it was late and I was blown away. Nearly everywhere they could buy advertising space, they did. The only thing missing was a guy walking around in that battle suit thingy. They probably couldn't do that because it would scare people.

I haven't seen any of the neat "flip books", just stationary ads. They dominated at least two stops to include Metro Center. The artwork was of good quality. They're clearly not holding back with the ad money.

Gah! I don't need the temptation to buy a new computer.

[LeftEyeNine]

I got candies for the first one to share a review with us, no matter whether brief or detailed.

[rajpoot]

For some reason it's not being released in India, at all

[rajpoot]

8.5 or above out of 10, all over the internet........and I've been going crazy trying to find some store that'll ship to India, but no luck. :(
Anyone here know any shopping site that I can get the game from? I so want this one.......

[The_Doctor]

For some reason it's not being released in India, at all

Appartly it is because of cultural reasons.

http://www.destructoid.com/fallout-3...--108734.phtml
http://www.gamingindians.com/2008/10...ase-cancelled/

Poor India.

8.5 or above out of 10, all over the internet........and I've been going crazy trying to find some store that'll ship to India, but no luck. :(
Anyone here know any shopping site that I can get the game from? I so want this one.......

Have you tried this place?
http://www.play-asia.com/

[Lemur]

I'm an idjit. I bought Fallout 3 through Amazon using gift codes (I have an Amazon Visa that helps defray the high cost of loving books and video games). Anyway, Amazon busts out a new promotion where I could have had the game today, saying all I need to do is cancel my old pre-order and create a new one. Well, if I did that I would be out the forty bucks' worth of free money.

So I gots to wait for normal delivery sometime around Friday. At least I'm not in India.

[frogbeastegg]

Eurogamer review and retrospective.

Other than that, I'm not reading anything. I've been ignoring the previews, the threads, the interviews and all the furrore; I'll play it and see how it stands - or falls - on its own merits.

[LeftEyeNine]

I've read reviews just like what I expected. I'm definitely nervous about that the reviewers are suffering oh-look-at-those-awesome-gfx-of-Oblivon syndrome. I hope they are not.

[rajpoot]

http://www.play-asia.com/

Yup tried that, they supply, but not where I live, so I'll have to get it shipped to some bigger city and then have someone send it to me from there.
Looks like that is my only choice though.

[Sarmatian]

I've read reviews just like what I expected. I'm definitely nervous about that the reviewers are suffering oh-look-at-those-awesome-gfx-of-Oblivon syndrome. I hope they are not.

Don't you know that big gaming site review hype instead of the game. God forbid that some reviewer may actually have an opinion of his own...

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[CrossLOPER]

My roomate got this game yesterday. It's Oblivion with guns, but it's actually pretty fun. Also, Bethesda made a jumping animation, so your character does not just pop into the air like a puppet on strings. Still crashes on closing and V.A.T.S. sometimes goes screwy and just decides to abruptly end and teleport the the player to some random area in the room.

[Lemur]

Other than that, I'm not reading anything.

Very wise. I walked into the game pretty much blank, tonight, and I'm really glad I did. There's some stuff in the tutorial level that would have been ruined if I knew about it ahead of time. So far, my verdict is two thumbs up, or three if you've been exposed to a lot of rads ...

[Veho Nex]

I got both hands up on this game, cause its backed me into a corner of awesome

[Husar]

I wanted to get it for the PS3 but the above link just made me decide not to do that, unless I read elsewhere that these bugs were a fault of the reviewer or have been fixed in a patch.

[Kekvit Irae]

I'm going to echo everyone and say that the more I play it, the less it feels like Fallout and the more it feels like Oblivion with washed out colors. You can even buy a house in Megaton and decorate it from a nearby merchant.

[TinCow]

I'm going to echo everyone and say that the more I play it, the less it feels like Fallout and the more it feels like Oblivion with washed out colors. You can even buy a house in Megaton and decorate it from a nearby merchant.

Yep, and that's not the only house either. Like in Oblivion, there are multiple in different places that are of varying quality and size and which can be upgraded in various manners. The one I got while beta-testing even came with its own barber robot that would change my haircut at will.

[Crandaeolon]

Hmm. Endless gray and brown containers strewn in a landscape of gray rocks, brown vegetation and grayish brown corridors is not kosher. Bad Bethesda! Bad!

Yes, finding secret stuff is fun. Good job. Well done. But, y'know, it doesn't HAVE to be because the containers containing said secret stuff are hidden by camouflage. Also, after reaching level 6, I have this nagging suspicion that everything from loot to enemies is still scaled by player level... never heard of status quo balancing, eh, Bethsoft? Hmm?

Oh well, those are relatively minor niggles. We'll see!

[The_Doctor]

What do you do with a house?

[Sarmatian]

Basically, people just shouldn't think of it as a Fallout 3, but Oblivion in post-apocalyptic setting. That way it can still be an enjoyable game... Yes, it will be hard for die hard Fallout fans to do that, but hey...

[johnhughthom]

Basically, people just shouldn't think of it as a Fallout 3, but Oblivion in post-apocalyptic setting. That way it can still be an enjoyable game... Yes, it will be hard for die hard Fallout fans to do that, but hey...

That's how I've been intending to look at it, have to wait until tomorrow to play though. Wish I still lived in the States at times like this...

[LeftEyeNine]

Basically, people just shouldn't think of it as a Fallout 3, but Oblivion in post-apocalyptic setting. That way it can still be an enjoyable game... Yes, it will be hard for die hard Fallout fans to do that, but hey...

That means the end of the Fallout.

****.

[Kekvit Irae]

What do you do with a house?

The exact same thing you can do in Oblivion: store stuff, take screenshots, upgrade the decor, and eventually forget about once you get bored.

[LeftEyeNine]

Oh, and a decoratable house, yes. Fantastic.

[Veho Nex]

I love the fat man and the mini nukes, byfar the most kick a thing ive ever done in the game?


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Who has fought the mutant behometh yet

[Veho Nex]

I beat it, took me from 3pm to 1 am with a one hour break. I only did two side quest though. Time to go back and do it on an evil karma now.

[Ja'chyra]

I beat it, took me from 3pm to 1 am with a one hour break. I only did two side quest though. Time to go back and do it on an evil karma now.

Well done, but i have to ask what's the point of rushing through the main quest and missing out on most of the game?

[Bob the Insane]

Wow...

I was off Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday playing the game from about 3pm Tuesday to 2am Wednesday, 9am Wednesday to 1am Thursday and finally 9am Thursday to 11pm Thursday...

I have not finished the main quest and in fact I am not sure how far along I am...

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I have been to the Jefferson Monument and listen to my fathers tapes telling me where he headed next.

I have not been systematicaly exploring or anything, but rather just getting destracted on my way to a core quest location. The nature of the central story, searching for your father, really plays along with this well. You get to decide how urgent it is for you personally. No one is artifically pushing you along the path with "hurry must save the world now!" as was the case in Oblivion and Mass Effect...

My personal opinion is that it really is a perfect story (so far) for this style of open ended gameplay. You rush out searching for your father but keep getting distracted and and having you priorities tested by what you see. It is a personal journey so the decisions you make and the diversions you take all fit in neatly to the unfolding story...

To me it all really does feel very "Fallout(tm)" in style, content and structure, the Wastland does feel pretty big (I know technically it is not but there is no car and no horse to get around on so it seems like it is). The fast travel works nicely once you have found a location but can't be abused. No fast travel in combat or if you are overloaded with stuff.

One thing that is a bit of a distraction is the music, sometimes it is fine and sometime is sounds just like Oblivion with some extra echo and metalic twangs.

They do have kids in the game but you can't kill them. They react to being attacked and everyone else will come after you but they are essentially immune to injury. Personally I am fine with this, better than not having them in the game at all.

Basically I have the game on my PC, all graphics maxed out and a good resolution and it looks great. Utterly fantastic? No, but very good... The animation is not as bad as has been made out and the AI is decent enough. The intelligent enemies seek cover, change to an approriate melee for the range, pick up better weapons if available or if you have shot their weapon out of their hands. They even run away sometime... This on top of reasonable non-combat activities too...

For my best comparison for how combat works and the general gameplay think back to System Shock 2. Only much prettier, with people you don't have to fight and on the ground. Where as Bioshock took the Survival Horror aspects and built and intelligent shooter, Fallout 3 kept the somewhat awkward RPG/FPS hybrid combat and filled in all the other RPG baggage of NPC's and locations and such.

If you keep in your head that this is an RPG you will enjoy the game more. I recall one event that really got in into the open nature of the story. I was in Big Town and I was talking to the inhabitants. I had rescued some of them and an attack was coming. I was speaking to them as I waited. One of them, Buttercup, started flirting with me and I finished the conversation meaning to talk to her again later. The attack commenced, not a particularly hard one but it was early in the game and both you and the citizens are poorly armed. The the defense went well and the enemy put to flight. NPCs were cheering and very happy. I was speaking to them and soaking up their praise and noticed Buttercup was not there. I went back and found her dead, killed by a random grenade toss I think. I found myself upset for a moment and my finger hovered over F9 (quickload for you 360 and PS3 players). But then I thought better of it and decided to let the story play out, I would save them all on another playthrough (or kill them and steal there stuff maybe). But that momentary pang really brought home to me how much I was buying into the story and my character's role in it...

It is just a computer game, a FPS/RPG hybrid (with more RPG than FPS) and yet, I still feel sad about buttercup. Dogmeat is gone too. I am a hero to the helpless and a deadly storm of violence to the evil and oppressive. But even given those choices, difficult decisions come up. In one case I have now, you know the situation will end badly if you walk away, but the "good guys" are proposing the violent solution and the "bad guys" simply want to be left alone/defended. What is the choice for the boyscout hero type??

I have been rambling about my experiences with the game rather than reviewing it really. My main point, if you like RPG and are not violently opposed to FPS you will like this. And it looks pretty nice...

[Veho Nex]

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I cried in the end, because I did good karma ending with self sacrifice.

And bob you're about 1/4 done, you've got a long way to go.

And the reason i rushed, is cuz with oblivion I wouldnt rush then I would get too sidetracked and so I've never actually beaten oblivion.

[Kekvit Irae]

As much as I love LittleBigPlanet, I find myself playing Fallout 3 more.
I'm enjoying wandering around the area of DC and seeing what sights I remember from living there.
Currently I'm trying to figure out a way to reach Rivet City, without much success no thanks to blocked roads and super mutants with rocket launchers.

[Kekvit Irae]

Is it wrong to giggle like a madwoman when I shoot a frag grenade out of a charging super mutant's hand, resulting in its one-hit demise?