Two Huge Eleuthori Navy Pops Up Out of Nowhere

**Centurio Nixalsverdrus** · 04-29-2007, 18:22

Please look where this navy is situated:

Looks like a really safe place for a navy.

**pezhetairoi** · 04-30-2007, 12:21

Goodness, that's a really snugly divided continental Europe you have in your campaign. And it's a really neat combination of colours too, soothing on the eye, it is.

**Intranetusa** · 04-30-2007, 19:38

Results: :D

"Goodness, that's a really snugly divided continental Europe you have in your campaign. And it's a really neat combination of colours too, soothing on the eye, it is."

You talking about my pic or Centurio Nixalsverdrus's pic? lol

**LusitanianWolf** · 06-26-2007, 15:05

First fleet:

Second fleet:

OMG!!!!

Remember that in EB each boat means on full fleet and not an single boat!!!!
That seems an little non historical, lol...
Or maybe the persian embire got himself eleutheroi... So you should call Leonidas and the 300's spartan supermans

**Ignopotens** · 06-26-2007, 23:10

Are they just spawning like this, or are they combining?

If they are combining, is there some way to keep Eleutheroi fleets from forming masses over a certain size, or at all? I mean, I don't see small Eleutheroi armies banding together to form super-massive armies.

**MarcusAureliusAntoninus** · 06-27-2007, 00:13

They are combining to form those fleets. There has been dicussion of altering them because they shouldn't be as big of a problem as they currently are.

The problem is that the fleet wander a bit then get stuck somewhere like the Baltic. If rebel armies had nowhere to go, nothing to attack, and nothing to defend, they would collect in a few random places too.

**Pharnakes** · 06-27-2007, 00:20

So could you maybe script the creation of AI navies to give them a target, and at the same time keep their numbers down a bit?

**Centurio Nixalsverdrus** · 04-30-2007, 20:17

Originally Posted by pezhetairoi

Goodness, that's a really snugly divided continental Europe you have in your campaign. And it's a really neat combination of colours too, soothing on the eye, it is.

Yes, I guess I was lucky with it.

Does nobody find it strange to have a navy just in the middle of the belgian continental land mass?

**Michaelis** · 05-04-2007, 11:45

I'm a newbie - currently in the middle of my first game - so maybe what I'm seeing is a fluke. Anyway, it seems that the Eleutheroi on Gotland are churning out ship after ship, and I have the impression most of those ships move out to the Atlantic after a while. My guess would be that after they've put a strong stack of units into their Gotland city, they focus on building ships, and move them along the coast. They've even blockaded a port of mine for a couple of turns!

**Juvenal** · 05-04-2007, 13:24

That's interesting.

In my 0.80 Casse campaign I noticed that the Eleutheroi fleets seemed to come down the English Channel from the North Sea in convoys of 4 to 6 fleets. I assumed they were patrolling - but it looks like they were just heading for the Med!

I assumed the boats were being created by scripts. Every time I built a fleet (the Casse could only build ships in south-east Ireland and north-Cornwall), it would be caught crossing the Channel by 3 or 4 enemy fleets.

What would generally happen is that I would beat the first fleet with heavy losses. The second would then beat me, and my retreat would fail to take me out of range of the third fleet, which administered the coup-de-grace. The whole process felt rather like being run over by a bus.

I thought that if I kept building fleets, the Eleutheroi would eventually run out of boats. Looks like I was wrong.

I ended up conquering Gaul almost entirely with troops recruited locally - it was just too expensive to recruit a new fleet for every stack of elites I wanted to transport across the Channel.

**Intranetusa** · 05-04-2007, 20:39

Originally Posted by Juvenal

That's interesting.
I ended up conquering Gaul almost entirely with troops recruited locally - it was just too expensive to recruit a new fleet for every stack of elites I wanted to transport across the Channel.

Interesting :)

**MarcusAureliusAntoninus** · 05-05-2007, 00:11

The pirate fleets aren't created by script. They just randomly spawn and then conjugate. When there are no (non-pirate) fleets or all fleets are in port, they gather (usually in the Baltic, Adriatic, Persian Gulf, or the Danube delta). Once a fleet (especially yours) leave a port, they 'see' it, no matter where they are, and they will sail full speed to attack it. Once your fleet is gone or back in port they conjugate in their normal areas again. They just seem to come out of nowhere...