Kung Fu Mafia [Concluded]

[Pannonian]

Sod the program-writing, I'll just manually log all the posts instead and sort through them by brute force. Analysis up in a couple of hours, if RSI doesn't get me first.

[Pannonian]

Is there any way of getting a csv list of posts paired with posters? Something like this, done in blocks of 30-100, would be nice.

Sasaki Kojiro,Ichigo,Warmaster Horus,pevergreen,Faust
...etc.

[Orb]

Doubt it.

[Csargo]

In his absence, I can confirm that that is what Pan' said.

I'm not sure who to trust in the sapi vs. pevergreen war. I, for some reason, think that you may be together, yet I'm not sure why.

Anyhow, we need to get out of this loop and try and isolate who is the mafia and if doc_bean was mafia. We should make no challenges tonight, but should still target one of the below for lynching. Tomorrow, if the night kills are as prior to last night, we should try challenging them one by one, individually, and see what it comes up with that night in terms of kills.

So today we need to lynch one of the below. Tomorrow, need to challenge (that job needs assigning to a good strong Kung Fu user)/lynch one of the below:
Ichigo
pevergreen
Kommodus
Pannonian (He's suspected as an innocent, so we should

So, Vote: Ichigo - he's first on the list (we have to start somewhere).

Why?

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Why?

You are top of the list I made and you were inactive last night. A night when the kills were different. Sorry to pick on you, but we had to start somewhere.

[Caius]

You are top of the list I made and you were inactive last night. A night when the kills were different. Sorry to pick on you, but we had to start somewhere.

Can you share that list?

[Orb]

I'm off to watch House soon, so I'm throwing my vote in now.

Unvote, Vote CR

Putting pressure on lurkers..

(vote tally as before, but I'm voting for CR, not for Warluster)

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Can you share that list?

I already have.

[Csargo]

You are top of the list I made and you were inactive last night. A night when the kills were different. Sorry to pick on you, but we had to start somewhere.

[Andres]

I'm off to watch House soon, so I'm throwing my vote in now.

Unvote, Vote CR

Putting pressure on lurkers..

(vote tally as before, but I'm voting for CR, not for Warluster)

I know a better way:

CRAZED RABBIT, ARE YOU MAFIA? SIMPLE "YES" OR "NO" ANSWER PLEASE.

[Csargo]

I know a better way:

CRAZED RABBIT, ARE YOU MAFIA? SIMPLE "YES" OR "NO" ANSWER PLEASE.

That's dirty.

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

I've just stupidly realised something, but my vote on Ichigo still stands - just incase that my realisation was not the case.

[Csargo]

I've just stupidly realised something, but my vote on Ichigo still stands - just incase that my realisation was not the case.

You still don't have anything on me. I've been out of commission every night besides the very first kills. Now that there has only been one kill how am I highest up on the list?

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

I've been out of commission every night besides the very first kills. Now that there has only been one kill how am I highest up on the list?

Your not on the top of the list in that sence. The fact that you are simply on the list is the reason that you are been voted for - not because I find you anymore dodgy than pevergreen or Kommodus.

[Csargo]

Well until you come up with something better than you're on my list so I'm voting you don't expect me to respond to your posts.

[pevergreen]

Ichigo
pevergreen
Kommodus
Pannonian

Well I'm not going to vote for myself. I think the time has come for Kommodus to reveal what his programs are saying.

Vote: Kommodus

Until you show your results.

[seireikhaan]

Ok, here's my kill analysis, as promised. Sorry its a tad late, but finals week is a comin' round the corner. Please note some of this will be my interpretation of the posts. If you disagree, please discuss. If you feel that analyzing writeups is a waste of time, then so be it. I did this for those who felt it might help(myself included)

1st kill(Dutch Guy) Overall, was a pretty short kill and not much to go on. Only missing a couple of commas in minor places. The language style used isn't quite as common in the US, more common in Britain. Unfortunately, its nothing really glaringly British or Australian, it could still easily be someone from the US or elsewhere, so more analysis will be needed.

2nd kill(Chugg) Something struck me odd about this kill. The first thing was that it began with the word 'meanwhile'. This gives me an indication that it is quite likely that the same person wrote both kills. Looking through the rest, the few errors are in the exact same mold as the previous kill, missing a punctuation here and there. Overall, the write-up was fairly well done, with a variety of language and no grammatical errors, such as spelling. So far, assuming that indeed the same person wrote both kills, my guess is that our killer is perhaps in his mid twenties, graduated from college, but forgetting some of the finer details of writing. If I had to hazard a guess at nationality, I would probably say British, but that is far from affirmed at this point.

3rd kill(Andres) Overall, this was a solid case of writing, with the exception of a mistake regading to and too. The style of writing seems moderately eloquant. Perhaps the biggest hint here is a referance to metres. This is a strong indicator at someone outside of the US for this kill. To me, the biggest thing regarding that is the spelling of it. The spelling is in British style, so perhaps we have a Brit on our hands here. As a side note, I'm not sure how each country spells it, though my guess is that the US is the only one to spell it meter(just because we've got to be different, as always.

4th kill(Disco) Gah! There's practically nothing to this post. Doesn't really reveal much, though my guess is that this was written by someone who either very much dislikes writing, or isn't very skilled at it, as it seems to have been written with very little to no effort. As a note, I found it interesting that during the writeup, it would alternate between calling Disco his game name and calling him Disco. I'm taking this as a sign that the mafia likely doesn't need game names to kill. My guess would be that Sasaki probably subs in the game names on the writeups and leaves it at that, only on this one, he missed Disco's name a few times, perhaps.

5th kill(Redleg) Yet another very short writeup. My guess is that this was done by the same person who wrote up Disco's kill, very short. It doesn't go much into detail. In addition, it is done in the same style as Disco's kill, as a fake training session. A missed comma or two, not much to comment on grammar.

6th kill(GH) Written in the same style as Andres' kill, with the exception that this kill was done with a bow and arrow instead of kung fu. In both of the kills, the killer claimed a favor from the victim, and used it to aid in their deaths. We are beginning to see a theme in that the killers for the longer kills are being given some kind of identifier. For Chugg, it was the robed monk. For Andres, it was the hooded monk. Now, it is the masked monk. Once again, the grammar was solid, but comma's were yet again missing from places they should have been. There was one slight fragment when the killer spoke to GH, not really noticeable but still incorrect. Also, my guess is that this writeup was done by someone who has a fair amount of mafia experience. My reasoning for this was the portrayal of GH as "the eldest, wisest monk in the temple". My belief right now is that this person is probably from Europe, mid twenties and graduated from college. Their intelligent, but are beginning to forget some of the details of writing. I believe this to be the same person who killed Andres. My estimation is that they realized that having a high kung fu score could draw suspicion on them, and consequently went to a weapon to temper a high kung fu score.

7th kill(Roadkill) So far, this was the most well written piece. There were no errors that I could find within the writeup. Clever ending, as with GH's. The endings are so similar, in fact, that I think this was the same person. Yet another similarity, was the use of the bow to kill. One thing that really bothered me reading this was the use of "Hi!" It seemed rather inappropriate for the setting. Just didn't seem to fit the rest of the writeup. Now, I don't know how much people use 'Hi' in the rest of the world, but I know that it is frequently used here in the US. Any input from those who would know would be appreciated.

So, here's my summary so far. Night one kills were probably done by the same person. Likely, one mafioso couldn't PM Sasaki their night orders, so the person who wrote up one of the kills had to writeup another one and send it in for the partner. Based on style of post, its possible that this person had to writeup the two very short kills as well. They probably sent it to Sasaki as a backup and one mafioso hasn't been participating much, as the backups were used. I believe that the Andres, GH, and Roadkill kills were all done by a single person as well, due to consistencies in both style and grammar.

So, according to analysis and my interpretation of it, here are my character outlines for the mafia, with three total mafia.

Mafia one: Wrote up 1st two kills and possibly the redleg and disco kills as well. Probably somewhat experienced at mafia. Probably somewhere in the age range of 18 to 24. Interpreting a nationality is rather difficult at this point. Not enough info for an accurate guess at this point.

Mafia two: Either inactive or inexperienced at being mafia. May have written up Redleg and disco kills, or perhaps failed to pm sasaki and a backup was used in place. My guess right now: Warluster.

Mafia three: Likely a very experienced player. GH kill hints at least some experience at mafia. Similar kill themes for Andres, GH, and Roadkill, including a witty ending to GH and Roadkill deaths. Mostl likely isn't from US, hint coming from use of metres in Andres writeup. Likely British, but could be from elsewhere. Likely has a high kung fu score, and realized that a gigantic kung fu score would draw suspicion. Hence, use of the bow for the latter kills. Also, made similar use of a tree to the Buddha statue in the Roadkill/Andres writeups. People who might fit the bill: Orb, Hughtower, Coung Arach, and *possibly* Omanes. I think Omanes is the weakest candidate, with the others vying for top suspect.

[seireikhaan]

Also, Vote: Warluster. My belief is that he's the second mafia. Just seems to fit the bill, imo.

[Csargo]

Also, Vote: Warluster. My belief is that he's the second mafia. Just seems to fit the bill, imo.

[seireikhaan]

Read my post, Ichigo. Someone who's been largely inactive, and therefore the other mafia had to write in some, or all of his kills. Warluster's got, IIRC, 6 posts the entire game, and yet wasn't wog'd. Now why would Sasaki keep him alive? Because he probably doesn't want to have to wog the mafia.

[Csargo]

Read my post, Ichigo. Someone who's been largely inactive, and therefore the other mafia had to write in some, or all of his kills. Warluster's got, IIRC, 6 posts the entire game, and yet wasn't wog'd. Now why would Sasaki keep him alive? Because he probably doesn't want to have to wog the mafia.

He should get WoG'd next round if not then vote for him then.

Unvote:Sigurd
Vote:Hugh

We've heard little from Hugh lately. I wonder why?

Ichigo: 2 (Stig, Omanes)
Hugh : 1 (Ichigo)
Warluster : 1 (khan)
CR:1 (Orb)

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

BTW, that night somebody could have been protected, so that list is a little bit outdated and incorrect. However, somebody may not be protected.

[pevergreen]

Ichigo: 2 (Stig, Omanes)
Hugh : 1 (Ichigo)
Warluster : 1 (khan)
CR:1 (Orb)
Kommodus:1(pevergreen)

Corrected.

[Sigurd]

Well done greaterghaan...

The short kill description could have been written by Sasaki because the Mafioso sent no story; just the kills.

To the metre vs. meter, I can see a few possibilities here.
I would have written it meter as that is the way we use it on mainland Europe. You suggest a Britt, but they still use feet and yards no?
It could be as you suggest a planted clue by a Brit/American who doesn't know how it is properly written.
However, we (Euros) would have had difficulties constructing good English, since we have had only a few years with English in school.

If it was a slip up by the writer it could as well be an Australian. I know they are using metrics down there.

You mention three Mafiosi… you know this because?
Some of the kills only mention the in game names… I take it you assume a lot here by placing a player to a kill description.

[Csargo]

BTW, that night somebody could have been protected, so that list is a little bit outdated and incorrect. However, somebody may not be protected.

See now you're thinking outside the box.

Ichigo: 2 (Stig, Omanes)
Hugh : 1 (Ichigo)
Warluster : 1 (khan)
CR:1 (Orb)
Kommodus:1(pevergreen)

Corrected.

My bad, sorry bout that.

Well done greaterghaan...

The short kill description could have been written by Sasaki because the Mafioso sent no story; just the kills.

To the metre vs. meter, I can see a few possibilities here.
I would have written it meter as that is the way we use it on mainland Europe. You suggest a Britt, but they still use feet and yards no?
It could be as you suggest a planted clue by a Brit/American who doesn't know how it is properly written.
However, we (Euros) would have had difficulties constructing good English, since we have had only a few years with English in school.

If it was a slip up by the writer it could as well be an Australian. I know they are using metrics down there.

You mention three Mafiosi… you know this because?
Some of the kills only mention the in game names… I take it you assume a lot here by placing a player to a kill description.

It's most likely that it was put in there as a red herring. It is strange that he would mention three mafiosi. I wonder what that's about.

[sapi]

Well done greaterghaan...

The short kill description could have been written by Sasaki because the Mafioso sent no story; just the kills.

Yep, that's what I think.

To the metre vs. meter, I can see a few possibilities here.
I would have written it meter as that is the way we use it on mainland Europe. You suggest a Britt, but they still use feet and yards no?
It could be as you suggest a planted clue by a Brit/American who doesn't know how it is properly written.
However, we (Euros) would have had difficulties constructing good English, since we have had only a few years with English in school.

Good point - at least one of the mafia is a native speaker.

If it was a slip up by the writer it could as well be an Australian. I know they are using metrics down there.

Yep, we are.

afaik the only two Aussies left in this game are pever and myself.

Considering that a) I know I'm innocent and b) I know that pever can never be bothered writing 'to' and 'too' correctly (similarly with the 'there' stems iirc), Vote: pevergreen

[pevergreen]

i can too be stuffed with to.

Its metre down here isnt it? i always get it wrong... I know its centre. But it might be meter..

Damn my lack of spelling

A) I know i'm innocent as well. Check with Twilightblade.

[Andres]

As for the metre - meter thing. In my first kill descriptions as Mafia in Mafia VI, I went searching on the internet for American publicity slogans to insert them in my story and make the town believe that one of the mafia was an American. Nobody picked up on it or paid attention to the write-ups in that game though. I also remembered GH correcting the spelling and grammar in our write-ups.

Besides, if I was American and mafia, I'd use meters/metres in my write-up instead of yards...

But that's just me off course.

I agree with Ichigo, wait one more turn for Warluster. If he doesn't show up than, he should get WoG'ed. If he pops up to post something without real content, lynch him.

pevergreen and sapi need some more attention.

As for Kommodus, didn't he say he would be absent for a few days? Anyway, if he shows up, ask him to post his results on 'holmes'. He promised not to use it as mafia, so if he keeps dodging and ignoring your questions about holmes, he's most likely mafia.

[Pannonian]

I recommend leaving out Warluster, CountArach, and the others whom I've nominated for duels (can the kung fu experts see to those please?). If they don't have roles, they'll most likely be expelled/wogged next round, and if they do have roles, we'll see them survive. No need to waste a round lynching them as yet.

Someone I have no info on whatsoever is Crazed Rabbit, who has managed to avoid discussion, avoid detectable night time activity, avoid drawing discussion, yet has managed to survive. People have, of course, tested his reputation for truth by asking him the question, which he hasn't yet answered. Rabbit, are you scum?

Vote: Crazed Rabbit

Ichigo: 2 (Stig, Omanes)
Hugh : 1 (Ichigo)
Warluster : 1 (khan)
CR:2 (Orb, Pannonian)
Kommodus:1(pevergreen)
pevergreen : 1(sapi)

[Sigurd]

Someone I have no info on whatsoever is Crazed Rabbit, who has managed to avoid discussion, avoid detectable night time activity, avoid drawing discussion, yet has managed to survive. People have, of course, tested his reputation for truth by asking him the question, which he hasn't yet answered. Rabbit, are you scum?

I would like to know too.

Vote: Crazed Rabbit

CR: 3 (Orb, Pannonian, Sigurd) - will be lynched with the next vote
Ichigo: 2 (Stig, Omanes)
Hugh : 1 (Ichigo)
Warluster : 1 (khan)
Kommodus: 1 (pevergreen)
pevergreen : 1 (sapi)

Oh and... Challenge: Warmaster Horus(why should the other "masters" have all the fun?).

Xdeath vs. Warluster
Orb vs. CountA
pever vs. Twilight - WHY?
Stig vs. Pannonian - Suspicious?
sapi vs. pever
Sigurd vs. Warmaster Horus