Lethality and Mass

**ajdeignan** · 04-27-2007, 14:09

Hi All,

Is there anywhere I can find information about what effect lethality and mass have in the combat equation (I'm after a bit of detail).

Thanks,

Andrew

**Ludens** · 04-27-2007, 14:44

Lethality is the chance whether a successful hit translates into a kill or a knock-down. High lethality results in more kills, low lethality in more knock-downs.

The exact effect of mass is not known, other than that it determines which unit is pushed back, but it does appear that, all other things being equal, the unit with the highest mass has a slight advantage in combat.

**Miles Sueborum** · 04-27-2007, 14:48

And what effects do Dammage and Defense have than? Do they decide wether it was an successful hit?

And is there an important difference between Shield, Skill and Armor?

**Roy1991** · 04-27-2007, 14:55

The exact effect of mass is not known, other than that it determines which unit is pushed back, but it does appear that, all other things being equal, the unit with the highest mass has a slight advantage in combat.

Also, units with high mass take less casualties from cavalry charges.

**Ludens** · 04-27-2007, 19:14

Originally Posted by Miles Sueborum

And what effects do Dammage and Defense have than? Do they decide wether it was an successful hit?

Yes. For more details, have a look at this post by Puzz3D.

Originally Posted by Miles Sueborum

And is there an important difference between Shield, Skill and Armor?

Armour protects against attacks from all directions, but this protection is halved in case the attack is made with an AP weapon/projectile. IIRC it also makes a unit suffer more fatigue, especially in hot climates. Defense does not protect against attacks from the back or missile attacks. Shield protects only against attacks from the front and left, but the shield value is dubbled against missile weapons. Also, running (but not walking) units do not get protection from their shields.

**Watchman** · 04-27-2007, 19:16

Originally Posted by Ludens

IIRC it also makes a unit suffer more fatigue, especially in hot climates.

Wasn't that determined by the stat_heat line ?

**Ludens** · 04-27-2007, 19:23

Originally Posted by Watchman

Wasn't that determined by the stat_heat line ?

It is? Perhaps I am confused with M:TW, then.

**blacksnail** · 04-27-2007, 19:49

Originally Posted by Ludens

Defense does not protect against attacks from the back or missile attacks.

Actually Defense protects against attacks from the front and the right, but not the left or back. The only true overlap of all three defense stats occurs in the front.

**Watchman** · 04-27-2007, 20:19

I can see where that could cause some odd results with melee flanking, given that the defense skill tends to be rather higher (and go up with exp to boot) than the shield value...