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    Default Re: Please, Please, CTD Help!!!

    This is not meant to offend you, btw. But I do hope that anyone who reads such a reply does react a bit like this:
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    This is not meant to offend you, btw. But I do hope that anyone who reads such a reply does react a bit like this:
    Your remarks do not offend me!!!

    On the same topic, do you have any unofficial mods installed?
    Have you deleted map.rwm? Please see this sticky to know why this is really important. Note that you need to do this again when applying the permanent fixes.
    Have you tried the temporary fixes in the sticky mentioned earlier? It didn't work? Please post a report. It worked? Great, your campaign is resurrected! Please post a report nevertheless, as we need it to find better, permanent fixes and to make the next version as stable as possible.
    Does it still crash if you do not enable the background script?
    Have you tried it 3 times or more, with consistent crashes?
    1.I have no other mods installed! Only mod I am using is EB 0.81a full install.
    This mod was reinstalled clean and fresh on my machine after 35+ CTD's on the same savegame file!
    2.Yes I have deleted the map.rwm! I have tried this process about 10 times if you count all of the occasions before and after the fresh reinstall.
    3.Yes I have tried all of the previously mentioned permanent and temporary fixes. I tried them individually and as a combination. It took a whole lot of reinstalling things, but I desperately wanted it fix.
    4.Regardless of background script it crashes every time.
    5.I have literary tried each scenario more than 5 times. It took me 48 hours of research and trying different things before I decided to post. I pursued every avenue available to me before deciding to ask for help.

    IMPORTANT INFO:

    Some of this can be hard to find out, but if you use the toggle_fow console command you'll be able to see it better. You can use console commands by tapping the key right below Esc on your keyboard.
    What is happening when the crash occurs? Are you attacking someone, were you attacked, were you conducting diplomacy, was the AI doing its turn etc. Please have a look around the map for settlements about to rebel.
    Where does stuff happen when the crash occurs? This makes us able to focus more on the area in question instead of looking around the map.
    When does the crash occur? What year is it? What's the season? Have you had any reforms? Do you know if any other factions have had reforms?
    Yes I have used toggle_fow and follow ai_movement, however not much luck there in determening what the cause is, because the game is not always crashing at the same time.
    I am not attacking anyone at the time of the crash, and no one is offering any diplomacy options to me either.
    CTD happens after I press END TURN, and it comes to about Hayasdan, Sauromatae, or Eleutheroi. It varies every time. However, it is always one of those three factions.
    The year is 198 BC Summer, and I currently have Polybian reforms. I don't know of the others if they had any reforms.

    Hope this info helps!
    If not, I would be happy to provide any additional info you might desire, just ask.
    I would also recommend to just simply download and try the game for yourself. That would probably offer you the most insight on what the problem is when the crach occurs.

    Thank you for all of the help and effort, even if you don't fix it in the end.
    I will still love and be greatful for EB and its wonderfull community.

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    Default Re: Please, Please, CTD Help!!!

    Thanks, that's a lot more helpful . The reason why we ask for all this information before downloading the game is because in many cases it's a waste of time; by answering the questions we ask people often find something that helps them out.

    There's one question you've missed though, are there any cities about to rebel? A great number of CTDs come from this, and we've verified that our solution for the bug is not complete; it gets less and less adequate as the game progresses, and you're pretty far along in your game. The fact that it crashes at different times suggests that there are several cities that may rebel and some may not each time. You could try to temporarily use Fallen's adaptation for Marcus' rebellion CTD fix for 0.81(a?) to see if it gets you past the crash, it shoots broader than our own current solution. You'll find it in the unofficial mods section.

    I'd try out your game myself but am not at a computer with the game right now.

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    Question Re: Please, Please, CTD Help!!!

    Thanks for the reply from all you guys!

    I am not sure if any city is about to rebel, because I don't know how to look for that. Please guide me.
    (I do know that none of my cities should be rebeling, but not for other factions).

    I also tried the mod you suggested but no luck so far.

    Thanks for trying...

    And thanks to everyone else who is willing to spend time resolving the issue.

    I feel as if EB Community is one big support group.

    Love you guys!!!

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    If you have fow disabled you can just double-click on every city and even w/o perfect spy enabled, you just need to look for the pitchfork symbol. No symbol, no rebellion.
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    Please guide me on how to have a perfect spy enabled and I will go ahead and try to debug the savegame file.

    Thanks so much...
    Please forgive my ignorance...

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    Good evening..or so..
    iam have the same problem...sorry for my worse english...iam from germany and to this point i love the mod but at the time ca 190 b.c the game crash...mostly by the eleuthroi...ist there a solve of the problem?

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