Stockholm we have a problem

[Fragony]

As for the article, come on "wage war" ??
As a person that lives close to Rosengård(the area in question), saying that they are waging war against the swedes is just so silly that ain't funny.
A bunch of kids thinks it is fun to mess with the police and all of the suddden it's war.

Hoho, article says that these bunch of kids see it like that. Is it relativily harmless? Uh-huh. So do we need to go in a spasm? Nope, no need at all. Could it be very easily handled, oh yeah. Thing is, the pc-sturmbrigade seems pretty comfortable ignoring it, pump a little extra money to those that feed on the problems, nothing happens, just more money down the drain. Not very smart in a country where doing nothing costs boatloads of money, and where the natives see that they are ignored. One can only take that much, and when the first immigrants are attacked everybody will be amazed of how such a thing could happen in Sweden, Sweden out of all countries.Should have been here the day after van Gogh, there was something in the air, believe me. Not just smoke of a few burning mosks.

Edit: hmmm, not that harmless. Malmo sounds like a great place to live. Sorry to hear about your third largest city, and sorry for even the officials saying they don't longer control it.

http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/nyhete...529910,00.html <---sorry it's in Dhimmi


Malm&#248;, Sweden. The police now publicly admit what many Scandinavians have known for a long time: They no longer control the situation in the nations's third largest city. It is effectively ruled by violent gangs of Muslim immigrants. Some of the Muslims have lived in the area of Roseng&#229;rd, Malm&#248;, for twenty years, and still don't know how to read or write Swedish. Ambulance personnel are attacked by stones or weapons, and refuse to help anybody in the area without police escort. The immigrants also spit at them when they come to help. Recently, an Albanian youth was stabbed by an Arab, and was left bleeding to death on the ground while the ambulance waited for the police to arrive. The police themselves hesitate to enter parts of their own city unless they have several patrols, and need to have guards to watch their cars, otherwise they will be vandalized. "Something drastic has to be done, or much more blood will be spilled" says one of the locals.

On the bright side, situation in the Netherlands isn't nearly as bad as this.

[Husar]

Well, on TV when they show how the police works etc, they sometimes say things like: "This area is so dangerous that the officers are afraid to go here" etc and while they never say it, it's often immigrant areas with a few natives mixed in, well whatever the people, if the area is that dangerous, I say scramble a big taskforce go in and make it bloody or peaceful, whatever the people living there want. But just avoiding an area because a bunch of kids scare the officers is plain wrong IMO. We need a bit more open conflict at times, just avoiding conflict all the time will cause you to end up in a corner you cannot escape from.
If an area is known to be dangerous, send more police, not less, "I don't see it so it doesn't exist" is not a solution.

And I agree with EA.

[Fragony]

Heh, these rascals aren't dangerous unless you are a granny or badly outnumbered or both, the ones that want to keep the dream alive are. I doubt someone with a bit of guts and will to act will have a very succesfull career, cowards can be terrible adversaries, and usualy much better connected and funded.

[Blodrast]

So, Tb666, HoreTore, you're saying that there is no problem, and the article is full of daisies and lies ?

[TB666]

So, Tb666, HoreTore, you're saying that there is no problem, and the article is full of daisies and lies ?

No, there is a problem. No one denies that. Our immigration policy has failed utterly and very few people including politicans will say otherwise.
However this article tries to make things alot more worse then it actually is.

For example

In one of the rare instances where the Swedish media actually revealed the truth, the newspaper Aftonbladet reported several years ago that 9 out of 10 of the most criminal ethnic groups in Sweden came from Muslim countries.

Now anyone that is knows swedish newspapers know that Aftonbladet is the worst source you can ever have about anything. Aftonbladet is a tabloid, pure and simple. When they aren't reporting about Beckham coloring his pubic hair, they make up sensationalist stories. They have been sued several times for making stuff up.
If their report is accurate I wanna see it from someone other then that paper.

The number of rape charges in Sweden has quadrupled in just above twenty years. Rape cases involving children under the age of 15 are six times as common today as they were a generation ago.

Once again he uses bad sources. It destroys his argument.

Yet the number one priority for the political class in Sweden during this year’s national election campaign seems to be demonizing neighboring Denmark for “xenophobia” and a “brutal” debate about Muslim immigration.

Not true. The number 1 thing was more jobs and better economy.
Denmark wasn't even mentioned.

Meanwhile, as their authorities have largely abandoned their third largest city to creeping anarchy, there is open talk among the native Swedes still remaining in Malmö of forming vigilante groups armed with baseball bats out of concern for their children’s safety

As a native swede that has lived all my life in Malmö I have never ever heard any talk about vigilante groups.

[Blodrast]

Now anyone that is knows swedish newspapers know that Aftonbladet is the worst source you can ever have about anything. Aftonbladet is a tabloid, pure and simple. When they aren't reporting about Beckham coloring his pubic hair, they make up sensationalist stories. They have been sued several times for making stuff up.
If their report is accurate I wanna see it from someone other then that paper.

Ah, I see. One main reason I asked this question was because I've stumbled upon some articles from Aftonbladet several times in the past, and I wasn't really sure what's up with it, i.e. how serious of a publication it is, etc. Normally, for a one-time use, I wouldn't care, but, like I said, since I did stumble upon it several times...

Thank you for clarifying, I'll keep in mind that I should take their articles with more than a pinch of salt.

[Yun Dog]

I see this whole thing as relative really

Im sure its much worse in Europe

but...

In Australia we have had successive waves of immigrants since WW2, and having only a short history, each wave has made a large social and cultural impact (for the better)

First it was the Italians, they were taking all our jobs and not speaking english, and most of them were probably just wainting to restart the war

then it was the greeks and macedonians waging open warfare on our streets (i think they still are)

then it was the serbs and croats waging wars against each other (european christians no less) and people wanted to have the army round them up and send them home... interesting

somewhere in there was the Vietnamese who were creating gettos, and taking over Richmond

then it was the 'asians' who were hanging out in 'triad' gangs and were untouchable -spiderboys apparently had annexed the southern suburbs (my home) luckily I was paying them protection money so I was alright !!- ooops I forgot I had to pay the protection money??? Hey Im not dead???

I think I even read a story about gangs of Africans gangraping (there must be all of 20 Africans in Perth) - wow they all mustve had sex with the same woman

now its the muslims

anyone would think with all those gangs and wars going on you couldnt walk down the street for the bloodshed

People have the impression of these things but generally impressions are created by the media and are misguided

my advice wait for the next wave of immigrants so you can start villifying them, that will make you forget about the muslims

[Ironside]

http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/nyhete...529910,00.html <---sorry it's in Dhimmi

That article that ended up in FOX news as the base to thier Immigrant muslims are waging war in Europe serie? From what I've understood, the situation has generally improved in Rosengård the last few years (parts of it are still a ghetto though). You did notice that the article is from 2004 right?

That was really an awfully errorsome article, for example that rape increase is quoted incorrectly from his own source and also includes a law change that made more crimes classified as rape.
It does seem to be an increase in rapes though.

TB666 the original article is from 2006 so I don't think it was written due to the recent riots.

[Fragony]

You did notice that the article is from 2004 right?

No, I wanted some more info and just went on to do da google. I think I remember the article you are referring to, something with Sweden reaching a critical forgetwhat. Year ago or so, if it has improved I want to know how.

[Vladimir]

I posted some article last year about immigrant rapes of Swedish women. The two may have been related.