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    Uber Soldat. Member Budwise's Avatar
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    Default I understand RELATIONS, but what is the ranks of it?

    I asked this question for Reputations but what about for Relations? Can someone please list the Ranks for Relations.
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    Default Re: I understand RELATIONS, but what is the ranks of it?

    Abysmal
    Terrible
    Very poor
    Poor
    So-so
    Reasonable
    Amiable
    Good
    Very good
    Outstanding
    Perfect

    Might be wrong though... Hopefully someone who knows the file this is in comes by.
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    Uber Soldat. Member Budwise's Avatar
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    Default Re: I understand RELATIONS, but what is the ranks of it?

    Thanks.

    I was sure of the high and low ends of it but around the

    So-so
    Reasonable
    Amiable
    Good

    range I was confused.
    Work, Girlfriend, Responsibilities, Reality, Kids, and MTW - all things in life make life worth living.

    Edit October 17th, 2007
    Work-Still hate it but I appreciate having it more now.
    Girlfriend - ? - looks like I am helping Nga now. Miss sex though.
    Responsibilities, Too many bills to too little money
    Reality - (Censored)
    Kids - My son is improving a little bit each day, still far behind but I may have more kids in the future.
    MTW - Kingdoms installed but...Urggg, too soon.
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    Conclusion, Life is worth Living now.

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    Default Re: I understand RELATIONS, but what is the ranks of it?

    I'm not entirely sure whether amiable belongs before or after good though...
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    Default Re: I understand RELATIONS, but what is the ranks of it?

    Amiable is worse than good even though they mean exactly the same thing...
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    Default Re: I understand RELATIONS, but what is the ranks of it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xdeathfire
    Amiable is worse than good even though they mean exactly the same thing...
    Well, technically they might, but in context the game has them the right way around (amiable being good but not friendly relations)
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    Default Re: I understand RELATIONS, but what is the ranks of it?

    So here's a question for the modders among us.

    In the campaign_ai.db file there are suggested values for enabling trusted alliances. values of 0.8 for relations with the faction in question, and 0.3 as I recall for global reputation.

    There are 11 ranks of relations in the above list - are we to assume that the value 1 is distributed equally across the list, so that each is worth 0.9090?

    In which case wouldn't a value of (eg.) 7.272 for Very Good or 8.181 for Outstanding be a better setting, so you could always tell in-game whether your relations were good enough to maintain the alliance?
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    Default Re: I understand RELATIONS, but what is the ranks of it?

    I'm not a modder, so take this with a grain of salt, but if I was writing the code I'd have it go from -1 to 1, rather than 0 to 1
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    Default Re: I understand RELATIONS, but what is the ranks of it?

    which would explain the 11 values...thanks! never a programmer y'see, got no idea about this kind of thing

    so the file is basically saying you need to keep relations above outstanding to keep the alliance
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