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    Default What's up with the Sicilians

    No matter what faction I start as they show up on turn 2 or 3 with their whole army and attack. I half expect to see them after starting russian campaign.

    EDIT: Yes, you could have made a much better analogy ~sapi
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    Somehow I think you could have made a better analogy there.

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    So what factions are you playing or are you really serious that it shows up for every faction.
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    Default Re: What's up with the Sicilians

    patch 1.2
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    i've tried 3 campaigns, and by turn 2-3 they attack.
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    That is not that rare of a target since the AI does alot more naval invasions ever since the first patch. Sicilians also seem to target Tripoli as well as the two islands west of Italy frequently
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeutonicKnight
    Somehow I think you could have made a better analogy there.
    Thank you.

    Now, maybe this is because they are in close proximity to many factions: Venice, Milan, Byzantium, Moors, HRE, Spain, Portugal France and Hungary. Some may think that some on the list are immune to the Sicillian expansionists, but the Sicillian AI is programmed to prefer Naval Invasions and it will go crazy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeutonicKnight
    Somehow I think you could have made a better analogy there.
    Apologies, it sounded better in my head.

    Sicily ignores all other targets including the easy rebel settlements and goes straight for me I tried spain portugal venice milan moors hre byz turks egypt basically anything that can be reached. I am playing VH camp

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    If you're playing on vh campaign with the 1.1 patch, you might as well get used to a lot of random seabourne attacks in the future
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    I play the leaked 1.02 got bout 200 hours on it by now (yes I got no life, I know)and the only way to get rid of the sicilians is to play them.
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    For me, it's the Spanish. Unless I'm playing them, they send an army at me no matter where I am. I am usually playing a Northern European faction, though.

    Sicily never seems to amount to much in my games. They get Tunis, Corsica, the other island, and then tend to die off fairly quick.

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    They always attack the human player, especially if you are on VH. They launch their first attack in my France, Spanish, and Milan game. I surely they will do the same on portugal, venice, or what ever faction have a coast on southern Europe.

    p.s. this is samiliar to what Greek was doing in RTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeutonicKnight
    For me, it's the Spanish. Unless I'm playing them, they send an army at me no matter where I am. I am usually playing a Northern European faction, though.

    Sicily never seems to amount to much in my games. They get Tunis, Corsica, the other island, and then tend to die off fairly quick.
    Yes, those asfihjaofhjafhl afjha slfsfnl falkf Spanish. Little sons of guns attack me as often as they can, it seems, and are especially recalcitrant to ceasefires. And I really love it when the buggers attack me, and I get warned slash excommed by el Popeness for defending myself. Gar! If you've got territory in the western half of the map, the Spanucks will attack you. Often, just enough to screw up the delicate balance you've spent ages establishing wtih the Pope and the mentally handicapped Milanese...

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    What is interesting in my campaigns is that the Portugese always seem to go for that little castle on western England and always seems to end up beeting the Scottish and English to it
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    Ok I tried the Sicilians and found out why they attack everyone:

    It's been like that last 60 years

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    Wow......that is quite sad that no one has done anything for that long.
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    Default Re: What's up with the Sicilians

    Oh no these are stacks to be "cleared" problem is that they send new ones all the time:


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    Quote Originally Posted by TeutonicKnight
    For me, it's the Spanish. Unless I'm playing them, they send an army at me no matter where I am. I am usually playing a Northern European faction, though.

    Sicily never seems to amount to much in my games. They get Tunis, Corsica, the other island, and then tend to die off fairly quick.
    Yeah the spanish...they are rather annoying...

    I've installed 1.2 (L) and restarted the game with the English. Im currently warring against the french and Wales just got invaded by a Spanish Army...it was defeated though.
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    If you have any territory on the Mediterranean then, yeah, the Sicilians will always attack you even if it means leaving their land to be conquered by the HRE. If you have territory on the North Sea then it will be the Danes and/ or English.

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    Default Re: What's up with the Sicilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius Terentius Varro
    No matter what faction I start as they show up on turn 2 or 3 with their whole army and attack. I half expect to see them after starting russian campaign.

    EDIT: Yes, you could have made a much better analogy ~sapi

    I get this same thing, only with Venice...if you're playing as Byzantium, Hungary, HRE, or Milan, never fails...Venice will send forth some pathetic little group of troops around turn 5 or 10 just to start a damn war...
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