Pedites Extraordinarii more expensive than Samnite Infantry, but weaker?

[LordCurlyton]

Yes, but only in a camillan MIC. And frankly, keeping those around after the polybians hit is just plain wrong.

[Dyabedes of Aphrodisias]

Yes, but only in a camillan MIC. And frankly, keeping those around after the polybians hit is just plain wrong.

Aw, seriously? Damn...I didn't even notice that...

[NeoSpartan]

but u can still get Samnite mercs....

[Gabeed]

I could be wrong here, but it seems like that samnite milites are only available in mid-southern Italy, while you can get extraordinarii with the appropriate barracks anywhere. That might be why extraordinarii are less able and more expensive than the Samnite milites.

[Tretii]

I am always recruiting Samnites which are cheaper and have better stats overall. Wait, I remember, I had a couple of units of pedites extraordinari attached just for flavour.

[The Celtic Viking]

I mean is it purely who has the most points or does it make a difference whether it's armor, shield, or skill?

The armour points protects from all sides, the shield points from the front and left and the skill points from the front and right. Missiles ignore skill. To make an example, say a unit has these stats:

Armour: 5
Defensive skill: 10
Shield: 4

Then attacks from...

... the front gives 19 defense (9 vs missile)
... the left gives 9 defense (9 vs missile)
... the right gives 15 defense (5 vs missile)
... the back gives 5 defense (5 vs missile)

That's basically it.

[Geoffrey S]

Bear in mind that unit recruitment and upkeep costs don't only reflect the stats. EB also takes such things into account such as historical availabilty, influence of recruitment on the productivity of the land, or the effect of recruitment on rebelliousness of the region. There are a whole number of possible reasons, but bear in mind that more expensive doesn't necessarily mean better.

[Morte66]

Yes, but only in a camillan MIC. And frankly, keeping those around after the polybians hit is just plain wrong.

I'm playing the Averni, and I conquered the Romani in the 260s. It's now almost 250 and I've got a level 4 regional MIC building in Capua which will turn out Samnite heavy infantry in a few turns. I'm hoping it'll keep working indefinitely -- after all, Polybius never reformed the Averni military machine.

Does anybody know if I can assume that the Polybians won't happen to the Averni?

[Tellos Athenaios]

This is all AFAIK:

No Polybian reforms for you!
1) The Polybian reforms are for Romans only; and require they are alive & kicking.
2) You use a different MIC structure for recruiting your Samnites; so whatever happens to the Roman MICs doesn't affect your recruitment.

[Hooahguy]

Yes, but only in a camillan MIC. And frankly, keeping those around after the polybians hit is just plain wrong.

i left Arpi without the upgraded MIC, so i could still retrain my camillian units.