Damn, I accidentally voted 7, crap. Sorry
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Genghis Khan
Jan Zizka
Edward of Woodstock (The Black Prince)
Saladin
Richard the 'Lionheart'
Belisarius
Khalid ibn al-Walid
Subutai
Frederick Barbarossa
Vanislaw Jangellio
Charles the Bold
William the Conqueror
Alexander Nevskij
Betrand du Guesclin
Charlemange
Nur-al-Din
Damn, I accidentally voted 7, crap. Sorry
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"In countries like Iran, Saudi Arabia and Norway, there is no separation of church and state." - HoreTore
Donde esta El Cid???
I support Israel
Yes, where is Rodrigo Diaz in this selection? The man was never defeated in battle!Originally Posted by Lorenzo_H
"Why spoil the beauty of the thing with legality?" - Theodore Roosevelt
Idealism is masturbation, but unlike real masturbation idealism actually makes one blind. - Fragony
Though Adrian did a brilliant job of defending the great man that is Hugo Chavez, I decided to post this anyway.. - JAG (who else?)
Don't blame me. I was one of those asking for his inclusion.Originally Posted by Spino
"The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken
Seriously lacking:
Robert Guiscard and Roger of Sicily, both, in my opinion, much better generals and politicians than William the 'Conqueror', who was defeated by his own son (Curthose) in Normandy. Alexius (Byzantine emperor) was 'terrified of the Duke (Guiscard)' and even payed the Holy Roman Emperor to invade Rome to try and take Guiscard out of the war (Guiscard did, in fact, defeat the Holy Roman Emperor, but his son, after several victories, was eventually defeated by Alexius).
Duqaq of Damascus for a leader? Where is Alfred the Great? Where is Bohemond, who essentially forced through the First Crusade (and also inflicted the aforementioned defeats on Alexius before one error)?
How about the first 'Norman' leader (is it Rollo), who managed to get the French king to give away a large amount of his territory?
:(
Too much movie-choice :(
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SERA NIMIS VITA EST CRASTINA VIVE HODIE
The life of tomorrow is too late - live today!
I agree. William of Normandy was never a serious contender for me. He had the advantage of taking on Harold when Harold was in the midst of a dynastic squabble/viking invasion. Harold then turned around and got back down to the South in time to come within an ace of besting (or forcing a draw and possible retreat on) William at Hastings.
That represents good strategic planning on William's part -- he had the timing almost perfect -- but tactically it was not so much of a much.
"The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken
Were the asked for?
Ah, I see them now.
Sorry to those who were hoping for El Cid, a Grevious error on my part. Next round some more generals will be thrown into the mix.
Last edited by Marshal Murat; 05-02-2007 at 21:22.
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Re: Pursuit of happiness
Have you just been dumped?
I ask because it's usually something like that which causes outbursts like this, needless to say I dissagree completely.
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