Defining victory in Iraq

[spmetla]

That's quite an assumption, how does leaving "no violence" out of a definition for victory mean that a situation similiar to Darfur is acceptable. I don't like Bush but that statement is being taken completely out of context, so long as "crusaders" are there we will have some violence happening along with the usual strife between the Sunnis and Shias. I still believe that so long as the Iraqi government is reasonably stable and not about to be toppled by the rival parties within that we'll have achieved a success, this is also coupled with that government not doing a purge of enemies the moment the US looks away.