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    Glory of Persepolis' goes on screen in response to insulting movie `300'
    Tehran, May 1, IRNA

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    A number of experts and critics attending the screening and analysis session of the documentary dubbed `Glory of Persepolis' said that it reflects the dignity of Iranians and Persepolis, adding that it is a proper response to the insulting Hollywood movie `300'.

    The screening of a new series of films started at Nour film house of Imam Ali (AS) Religious Arts Museum on Monday afternoon and `Glory of Persepolis' was the first film that was screened and analyzed.

    The session was attended by the producer of this documentary, Hossein Hazrati and Head of Parseh Research Foundation
    Mohammad-Hassan Talebian among others.

    Speaking at the session, Talebian said that this cinematic project was proposed by Iran's Cultural Heritage Organization in 2003.

    "The production of the proposed film was materialized through the efforts of the Parseh Research Foundation team working on
    it, which is now used to introduce Persepolis to visitors and give them an idea on this world famous ancient monument prior to touring it," he added.

    "Based on the research conducted at the foundation on the scientific progress and outstanding technologies of the era, it was found that the technology of the period was ahead of its own time, some examples of which are just being used today.

    Film critic, Reza Dorostkar, also attending the session, dismissed the idea of preserving the Iranians identity and history through incitement of their feelings.

    "Today, we need to produce films aiming to revive our historical monuments that will provide the opportunity to observe historical facts and at the same time get introduced to the history," he added.

    On his part, the producer of the documentary expounded on the film and the relevant book, adding that it is the fruit of sincere efforts of all those involved in the project.

    "In the process of production, it was attempted to consider the views of domestic and foreign experts, researchers and
    archaeologists," said Hazrati.


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    Default Re: Glory of Persepolis' goes on screen in response to insulting movie `300'

    As long as it isn't equally insulting... go Persia!
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    I'd be surprised if the Mullahs let this one through their blacklist as they usually ban anything pre-Islamic Persian. Hence why we haven't seen many historical flicks from Iran at all really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Celt
    I'd be surprised if the Mullahs let this one through their blacklist as they usually ban anything pre-Islamic Persian. Hence why we haven't seen many historical flicks from Iran at all really.
    And that is a damn shame!



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    Yeah, they are a bit selective about defending 'their' cultural heritage. Still, better late than never I guess.
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    You know Iran has got the dumbest propaganda people sometimes . There are hundreds of ways they could mess with Pre-Islamic Iran and make it how they want . Instead they try to ban it .


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    Default Re: Glory of Persepolis' goes on screen in response to insulting movie `300'

    Does the film start with a mushroom cloud over a picture of the US on a map? Unfortunately, I think that the modern Iran is way behind the Persian Empire....well the Persians didn't have nukes.....did they?


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    Quote Originally Posted by russia almighty
    You know Iran has got the dumbest propaganda people sometimes . There are hundreds of ways they could mess with Pre-Islamic Iran and make it how they want . Instead they try to ban it .
    hey, the US resents that remark. US propagandists are pretty dumb too!


    I think that the modern Iran is way behind the Persian Empire....well the Persians didn't have nukes.....did they?
    well neither does Iran


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    A ban on pre-islamic films in Iran? Well, that is news to me. Does anyone actually has a source on that?

    The reason not many people here have seen an Iranian historical war film is probably that not many have seen an Iranian film at all. And of course that historical war films hasn't been in the vogue in Iran, as it has here ever since Gladiator and the revival of the swords'n'sandals type films of 50's Hollywood.

    As for doing that "Glory of Persepolis" movie as a response to "300" it is as dumb as doing a "Glory of Tom" film in response to Jerry's string of successes.

    rgds/EoE

    BTW: If they're not banned (un)officially in your country, go see a New Wave Iranian film if you got the chance. It's really something else.

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    If you want to watch one of their movies, do some research on it first or your likely to pick up a several hour long pile of crap like I did from blockbuster. But hey! All the independant film festivals loved it At least it was amusing at all the wrong moments.

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    I'm getting pretty tired of all the "300 is racist and sexist" talk. It was based on a GRAPHIC NOVEL, with a simple plot involving good guys and bad guys. It's like saying Kill Bill is prejudiced against the Japanese, depicting them through the Crazy 88's as bloodthirsty, black mask wearing, katana wielding minions.
    300 is a dumb, entertaining movie that should not be taken seriously and does not need a "response."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecramer
    300 is a dumb, entertaining movie that should not be taken seriously and does not need a "response."
    Try explaining that to the Mullahs. (No offense intended towards any other Iranians.)

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    hm, well to consider how they feel, it would probably be like an iraqi film about the U.S. invasion depicting the americans as black-clad, demonic stormtroopers killing indiscriminately and mercilessly; which undoubtedly would upset alot of yanks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaknafien
    hm, well to consider how they feel, it would probably be like an iraqi film about the U.S. invasion depicting the americans as black-clad, demonic stormtroopers killing indiscriminately and mercilessly; which undoubtedly would upset alot of yanks.
    I agree. Before making '300', Snyder should have thought a little how many people were going to be insulted by it. Especially when diplomatic relations between the US and Iran are what they are. Insulting someone else for the amusement of others is not my thing...

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    Go iran (wow never though I'd say that )

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    I believe they did consider who would be offended by "The 300" before they made it. And they thought it was good. "There is no such thing as bad publicity."

    It would be cool to see a pro-Achaemenid movie. But I don't think one made in Iran would be very historical. There would probably be anti-West and pro-Islam (yes Islam) bais in it.

    Just a side note: I see the Achaemenids as the "good guys" and the Greeks as violent barbarians on the border causing trouble.


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    Mullahs want to make a movie about ancient Iran in response to '300' ! Oh No ,That's what I was always afraind of. How they can do so while they are already destroying Perspolis and Cyrus the great tomb the true father of all Iranians by opening the sivand dam ?!
    300 was an annoying movie for me and anyother true iranian ,But what mullahs are doing is just horrific. Hope that this news is just a rumor.



    P.S : We need world protest against opening the "Sivand Dam" which is a direct threat to one of the world's ancient treasures ,The Perspolis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kambiz
    P.S : We need world protest against opening the "Sivand Dam" which is a direct threat to one of the world's ancient treasures ,The Perspolis.
    They're flooding Perspolis!?!

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    Why should one get upset with a movie using fiction to depict something that happened long ago. If people are going to worry about who they will upset when they make a movie we would have none. I do not hear the Germans getting mad when a WWI or WWII movie is made, maybe the skinheads. I am from the southern part of the US and I do not get offended with American civil war movies. Either the movie is true or not why worry about what some overpaid person in California is portraying.


    it's a movie fiction all who looks to the cinema for a history lesson are looking in the wrong place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus
    It would be cool to see a pro-Achaemenid movie. But I don't think one made in Iran would be very historical. There would probably be anti-West and pro-Islam (yes Islam) bais in it.
    on the other hand, any movie made in the US "probably" is anti-east and pro-christianity/judaism bais. Same thing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Narhon
    I do not hear the Germans getting mad when a WWI or WWII movie is made, maybe the skinheads.
    The Germans don't make a very good yardstick, given their fairly justified issues about the topic. The self-flagellation can, however, reach somewhat embarassing levels in my experience.

    The American South I can say little about, but I suspect the phenomenom is similar regarding the population segment that doesn't have issues with Civil War movies - institutionalized slavery and oppression now just happens to be plain nasty by mainstream modern sensibilities after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Narhon
    I do not hear the Germans getting mad when a WWI or WWII movie is made, maybe the skinheads.
    well i think that probably has something to do with the germans being portrayed in most western made WWII films as pathetic losers getting killed by the dozens by the grizzled, tough-as-nails yank or brit soldier who's there to save the day


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaknafien
    hm, well to consider how they feel, it would probably be like an iraqi film about the U.S. invasion depicting the americans as black-clad, demonic stormtroopers killing indiscriminately and mercilessly; which undoubtedly would upset alot of yanks.
    That's fine, except that the depiction of the Persians in 300 has absolutely nothing in common with Iran of today. Unless Iranians see some similarities between themselves and an army of faceless ninjas commanded by a creepy sexually ambiguous guy? Because I didn't see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecramer
    I'm getting pretty tired of all the "300 is racist and sexist" talk. It was based on a GRAPHIC NOVEL, with a simple plot involving good guys and bad guys. It's like saying Kill Bill is prejudiced against the Japanese, depicting them through the Crazy 88's as bloodthirsty, black mask wearing, katana wielding minions.
    300 is a dumb, entertaining movie that should not be taken seriously and does not need a "response."
    This movie makes a mockery out of human life and glorifies murder on a massive scale. I had hoped people would have ignored it but apparently good taste is hard to find these days. The whole 'it's based on a graphic novel' argument is bs, you shouldn't make a graphic novel about raping women either.

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    All nations have their history. Good, Bad and Ugly. Yes I took the name from an Italian western. We all should learn from the past not try to hide it, like the propaganda ministries of our countries would like. I do think the cause of the Germans in WWII was bad but many Germans at that time did not. We are all swayed by our countries propaganda. What the Persians were 2500 years ago does not matter except to those who study history. The only Iranians I have met are good people. I can say the same for most of the people I have met around the world and I have been around the world. My point was why get upset with a piece of fiction set in a historical time and place. There are many other things worthwhile in the world that we should get worked up over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narhon
    All nations have their history. Good, Bad and Ugly. Yes I took the name from an Italian western. We all should learn from the past not try to hide it, like the propaganda ministries of our countries would like. I do think the cause of the Germans in WWII was bad but many Germans at that time did not. We are all swayed by our countries propaganda. What the Persians were 2500 years ago does not matter except to those who study history. The only Iranians I have met are good people. I can say the same for most of the people I have met around the world and I have been around the world. My point was why get upset with a piece of fiction set in a historical time and place. There are many other things worthwhile in the world that we should get worked up over.
    Yes, and one of those things is that people nowadays apparently like to watch a movie that portrays another people as demons and see them die by the thousands by some machos. IMHO people who like this movie sould see a shrink. No offense intended.

    Btw, I am watchng the movie right now and I find it offensive to everything human.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoffrey S
    That's fine, except that the depiction of the Persians in 300 has absolutely nothing in common with Iran of today. Unless Iranians see some similarities between themselves and an army of faceless ninjas commanded by a creepy sexually ambiguous guy? Because I didn't see it.
    Uh, except that they are Persians.


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    I totally agree with Narhon.I just add that someone with brains won't be insulted by a movie,picture( etc.) that doesn't depicts him or refers to him PERSONALLY(by name,surname,birthday..).However,there are some "people" who can take such movies as a personal insults.Poor ones...
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    Default Re: Glory of Persepolis' goes on screen in response to insulting movie `300'

    Well I saw Kingdom of Heaven and although I'm not sure about the historicle accuracy of said movie, it depicted a very honorable Saladin, more than History Channel I think; the crusaders on the other hand looked like bloodthirsty stupid fellas. How did arabs react to that movie, compared to 300?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barigos
    I totally agree with Narhon.I just add that someone with brains won't be insulted by a movie,picture( etc.) that doesn't depicts him or refers to him PERSONALLY(by name,surname,birthday..).However,there are some "people" who can take such movies as a personal insults.Poor ones...
    You don't mind watching humans get killed by the thousands just for entertainment? I find it repulisive.

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