Reign of Ares (tbs, city mod, new units, fixes and more) to eb with bi

The EB paradigm is that the "copy legionaires" were actually homegrown assault infantry types which the Romans, in due egocentric form, duly took to be copies of their so very excellent pattern (nevermind now that *they* had originally copied it from someone too...) right ? Certainly the only ones known for certain to be "copies" are the Numidian ones, which were originally trained by allied Roman officers, and those are a tad off the EB timeframe aren't they...?

Yes , you are right . Only Numidians and mayby Pont and Dacia (but another time) units trained by Romans(some is deserter) but this is "roman style "tactic and units but equipment is not this same as romans legionist

Sorry Thorlof, but could you please confirm me that your post is supposed to say that:
Only Numidians, Pontics and Dacia (later) had units trained by Romans. Some of these Romans were deserters.
But those "units with Roman influence" use Roman tactics but not exactly the same equipment as the Roman legionarys.
But what has this to do with those "Legionaroi" being mis-interpreted Thorakitai and therefore being historical inaccurate? I'm confused again

Thorakitai is only one type this units -another look to stelle from sidon or figures from this times or...look Montvert. This legionaroi is only one type romanized units.

Ah, now I understand. there is some evidence for roman-influenced units, and it is debeatable whether the Thorakitai are these or if they are just one type of them. So I can continue playing with the feeling of an historical accurate campaign

OK then how about the number of units I know its qiute realistic in scale but I wanted battles that can cover the whole map..can Thorlof pls make another version with maximizing the number of men in the battlefield

Say, I've been looking through the formation files and and started wondering about one thing, namely the unit_type parameters "light_pilum_infantry" and "heavy_pilum_infantry". Any idea what exactly counts as those ? Infantry with precursors, infantry with pilums for their ranged attack, or infantry identified as "light" or "heavy" "pilum" infantry by the relevant EDU lines (which none currently are)?

G3N3RAL GR13V0US -mayby in next relase 2 version with 1/10 scale and 1/1 scale with low cost ? But this is mayby crazy idea.
Watchman-this is working with pilum infantry. In others precursors- i dont now , but this is good idea to testing. But if You use only formation ai , you must change line unit_density loose, close
to unit_density close, loose
this is simple in edit -change all. In RoA (and TBS) some barbarian units with warcry attributes use pseudo shield wall in defence.
MButcher- cavalry cost is high only in hellenistic states and some cartaginian units.
Xhin_Akuma- only 1 ctd- in quit from campaign. I testing now 189 bc and dont have another ctd.

I know whats causing the toggle_fow thing now, it was the other minimods. I had to do a clean install.

So the CTD When exiting is one of the problems right? I hope it will get fixed in a next release.

I'm playing a Hayasdan campaign at the moment I saw that I can't build Armenian Noble Cataphracts, in no region at all. That's strange because in the EDU and EDB everything seems right.

I CTD evrytime after I press quit

I CTD evrytime after I press quit

Unfortunately yes this is problem.

I'm playing a Hayasdan campaign at the moment I saw that I can't build Armenian Noble Cataphracts, in no region at all. That's strange because in the EDU and EDB everything seems right.

yes this is strange. I play now Hayasdan and check this.

Well can I request for a larger (bit) than vannila amount of figures(men) on the battlefield eg 260-300 men each???. I just love the new formation + phalanxes omg the best +all the new units.

Originally Posted by G3N3RAL GR13V0US

Well can I request for a larger (bit) than vannila amount of figures(men) on the battlefield eg 260-300 men each???. I just love the new formation + phalanxes omg the best +all the new units.

240 is a hardcoded maximum. I find the 1:6 scale provides the best balance of large units, with a consistent scaling.

Originally Posted by Thorlof

yes this is strange. I play now Hayasdan and check this.

It's the same with the armoured horse archers. they are only available in Armavir (the starting city). But I can't imagine how this can happen, in the EDB and EDU everything is right.... or does it just seem to be right?

I know that with the vanilla EB EDB the Hai catas aren't recruitable in Armavir. I fixed the matter by adapting the recruitement line of the royal guard infantry (who are recruitable in exactly two locales from the top-level faction MIC, one of these being just Armavir), but I don't know if Thorlof's done something similar.

The cata archers worked properly IIRC though.

I'm really enjoying the mod so far, the only thing I would change is the high cost of cavalry.