[II] Faction list draft

[Warluster]

Pretty good faction line up, I shall be playng this one!

[aleh]

Depending on your starting date, have the Aghlabids as the actual Emirate of Sicily, with the Kalbid dynasty as an important emerging faction later on?

Edit: Ok, I checked the starting date. So, have the Kalbid Dynasty(you're going by dynasties instead of actual kingdoms right?). With the Zirids being the second Muslim faction and a strong rebel presence?

[alpaca]

Depending on your starting date, have the Aghlabids as the actual Emirate of Sicily, with the Kalbid dynasty as an important emerging faction later on?

Edit: Ok, I checked the starting date. So, have the Kalbid Dynasty(you're going by dynasties instead of actual kingdoms right?). With the Zirids being the second Muslim faction and a strong rebel presence?

Yes we're going with dynasties.
Since you seem to know a lot about the area: Would it be possible to get me a rough map of Sicily to see which faction should control which areas (can be hand-drawn )?

[aleh]

Val di Mazara(Kalbid Dynasty)
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Palermo(capital)(al-Akhal, ruler)




Val di Noto(Rebels I'd recommend, or some sort of Muslim faction, like the Emirate of Syracuse perhaps?)
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Syracuse(at-Tumnah family rules?)



Val Demone(Rebels)
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Why are the Zirids included by the way, I thought by the last portion of the 900s, they'd lost actual control of Sicily? Also, if you want to go with a second Muslim faction, I'd recommend one based around Syracuse(Emirate of Syracuse/Tumnah Dynasty?). There isn't much evidence for there being one until later in the century, so it could be one that emerges later on in the 1030s-60s that centres around Syracuse and Catania(if it's possible code-wise?). If that's not possible, then I guess it depends on whether or not you want Sicily to have just one 'native' faction and be harder or what. In that case, make it a very weak Emirate? Would make sense given that around the first quarter of the 1000s, there was more and more conflict in that area.

Hope that helps, that's the best I could do, though I think it's pretty accurate.

P.S. Here's one image that (you probably checked, but still) might help you guys.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ly_1000_AD.svg

Edit: Nevermind, I just saw that you included parts of Africa in your map.

2nd Edit: I can understand not having one specific faction controlling all of Sardinia. But, why not have one of the 4 kingdoms represented. Like for example the Giudicati of Arborea? I know they were for the most part under Genoese or Pisan influence, but if there's a faction slot to appear, might as well make that big of a place contain something, right?

[alpaca]

Thanks for the suggestions.
I don't know about a Sardinian faction, I'm not even sure how many provinces we should have on Sardinia and Corsica, so we'll probably have a look at that later.
For now we're not planning to have two muslim factions in Sicily, but it's possible one will be added at some stage.

[aleh]

Well, that's easy for Sardinia, just divide into the four historic giudicati(kingdoms), Cagliari, Loguduro, Agugliastri(yes, it'd be lated absorbed by Cagliari, but I don't think it was by the start date), Arborea and Gallura. As for actual coded provinces, well, I don't know, how many slots do you have to spare? Either way, I think Cagliari(town and province) would be under Pisan control given that they'd just reconquered the place from the Saracens and began to rebuild it/repopulate it, actually it happened in exactly 1017 I believe.

[alpaca]

Well, that's easy for Sardinia, just divide into the four historic giudicati(kingdoms), Cagliari, Loguduro, Agugliastri(yes, it'd be lated absorbed by Cagliari, but I don't think it was by the start date), Arborea and Gallura. As for actual coded provinces, well, I don't know, how many slots do you have to spare? Either way, I think Cagliari(town and province) would be under Pisan control given that they'd just reconquered the place from the Saracens and began to rebuild it/repopulate it, actually it happened in exactly 1017 I believe.

The slots aren't the problem, I just don't want to have too many provinces because more provinces means more work, and more pathfinding to be done which leads to longer AI turns.
For Sardinia I don't feel we should have more than two provinces or it'll be over-represented compared to other areas of the map.