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    Well, that old column doesn't tell us anything.

    Nor does the book which you refer to. It is published under the name of a 70-year-old actress named Ine Veen, but is is most probably written by her partner Jean Thomassen since Thomassen does all the interviews about the book and Veen shuns all publicity (I just called the editor at Aspekt, Perry Pierik, and he admitted as much). The duo are adding to their meagre pension by selling terrible holistic paintings and organising 'channelling sessions'. Local romour has it the woman is not compos mentis and Thomassen is exploiting her name and career as an artist. Recent tax fraud completes the picture.

    The book itself is just a rehash of the five year old Internet conspiracy stuff I mentioned (the spectacular MCC-claim about a 'worldwide plot against Fortuyn') plus one fake 'police report' that says two types of slug were found at the crime site. Meh. Just another attempt to make money out of the affair. Fortuyn is long dead, so are his two-bit political views; only his death won't die..
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    What do you mean his policy's died, it's basicly copy paste. Frankly I don't buy the global conspiracy stuff, but there really isn't anything I won't believe when it comes from the left since the torture hoax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony
    What do you mean his policy's died, it's basicly copy paste.
    Well, what policies did we paste? Did we opt out of the Joint Strike Fighter? Adopt smaller school classes? Declare a general amnesty for asylumseekers? Stimulate small businesses? Change our tax regime? Opt out of the EU Treaty? Forget it.
    Frankly I don't buy the global conspiracy stuff, but there really isn't anything I won't believe when it comes from the left since the torture hoax.
    Keep em coming, I like a good laugh about old baldy now and then.
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    Oh besides the torture hoax you mean? You know it, I know it. You know it for sure.

    How about Wilders being a spy for the Israeli's, they sure know how to moblilise them don't they.

    But, about copy paste: generaal pardon, spreiding witte/zwarte wijken, spreiding zwart/witte scholen om er een paar te noemen die zo trots op het programma staan, but before Fortuyn what's in black and white huh, stab them and all that flows is red.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony
    But, about copy paste: generaal pardon, spreiding witte/zwarte wijken, spreiding zwart/witte scholen om er een paar te noemen
    Yeah right, even in your own town of Amersfoort the 'spreiding'* of school pupils started in 1999, two years before baldy went into politics. He took that idea from others, not the other way round.

    And no one has ever heard anything about the rest of his famous 'ideas' again after May 6, 2002. The reason is he didn't have any.

    Fortuyn's program was a mad hodge-podge of ideas that would never fit together and would have never worked out in government. In fact when the time came to govern, all his party did was squabble over personal issues. Oh, and over the huge debt let behind by the great leader whose entire campaign had been financed by his real-estate buddy Ed Maas. In a sense that was a personal issue, too..

    The only Fortuynesque sentiment that persists today is a public aversion to Islam. It runs deeper and is more radical than Fortuyn ever advocated. None of his self-appointed heirs so much as refers to any other thought the big leader may have had. Entire episodes have been completely forgotten.

    Which makes me wonder.

    Do you recall that in his election platform Fortuyn proposed to completely scrap the army and air force and keep only the navy. "All we will have left is a few boats," he said. That is the reason why Fortuyn was against the Dutch puchase of (or participation in) the Joint Strike Fighter. Without an air force you don't need a figher, right?

    However, shortly before his death Fortuyn met with American ambassador George Sobel and several Dutch air force brass who convinced him that joining the JSF would be a good idea after all. Fortuyn imediately gave a newspaper interview where he stated that he would accept the JSF, and on the morning of his death he emphatically confirmed this in a radio interview.

    So I wonder what the conseqence would have been. Was F. suddenly in favour of maintaining a Dutch air force after all, including a JSF capability?

    And I wonder about the sudden change. Was he blackmailed by Sobel? By this time Fortuyn was open to blackmail by so many people I wouldn't be surprised if Sobel had the goods on him as well. It's amazing, if you listen to the May 6th radio interview you are struck by the resolute tone when he sais he would buy the JSF no matter what, and the Americans wouldn't have to worry about a thing...


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