What's the Biggest Army You've Ever Assembled?

[seireikhaan]

This thought just struck me recently while doing a turkish campaign. What's the biggest army you've ever assembled? I built up 26 jihads for when the Mongols invaded. My borders in the north were Georgia and Constantinople. The bizzy owned all the territories bordering my provinces, and once, just to cripple their armies, I took Khazar and then pulled back to Georgia.

It didn't occur to me until about 15 years before the mongol invasion that I could Jihad for Khazar. My original plan was for them to take Georgia and Jihad for that. I also maxed out the zeal of my provinces to 75/76%, with a few over that due to zealous governors. The crusades went from Antioch/Palestine to Syria to Armenia to Georgia to Khazar. I also threw in an 8 star general with plus 5 morale(due to traits) to lead the armies. When they arrived in Khazar, the Mongols, who oddly enough stuck to just the provinces they got in the initial invasion(Khazar and Volga Bulgaria) had all of their troop in Khazar.

The Mongols fled from Khazar into Volga Bulgaria, completely abandoning the province. I moved all of the troops from the successful Jihads into VB to finish the mongols off. In total, I had an army of just under 46,000 troops versus the Mongols measly 12,000.

EDIT: This was with standard unit sizes.

[Ironside]

Around 100.000 on normal unit size... Needless to say, I won that battle.

Took about the entire map to support that army though (was invading the last remaining province on the map).

Moving all those stacks took ages.

[Xehh II]

My armies are always very small, on normal unit size the biggest army i've ever had has only been 1,160 but that was enough to beat over 10,000 mongols.

[Martok]

Well I had once a Jihad army of around 36,000 men that (coincidentally enough) retook Khazar. If we're talking about the largest non-Crusade/Jihad army, however, then it's probably more in the 10,000-15,000 range. I've never really needed larger armies than that, unless it was maybe to deal with the Mongols.

[Deus ret.]

In one of my earlier campaigns as the Byz, I had been completely taken off guard by the Mongol invasion. When the game had subsequently crashed (which forced me to re-install everything ) I reloaded, only to witness my last working save game to be around 1198.

Being rather annoyed at first, I decided to play at least until the arrival of the horde and to forge a nice welcome committee on the way. It took up more than the surplus I had then but I shoveled around 25,000 soldiers into Khazar to greet the Mongols. Fool that I was then....needless to say, they showed up with an unbelievably large army (don't remember the numbers anymore) and crushed my force. This at least revitalized the campaign and made me finish it, with the GH being a bitter foe to the very end....when I contented with a minor victory.

But I never again amassed an army which was that large. What for? Smaller forces of well-chosen, elite troops serve the same purpose much better.

[The Unknown Guy]

I generally play as Byzantium, and tend to use small, functional armies.

In my current HRE game I´ve fielded as many as two thousand men. But most of them were trash. Still, they had their uses, if used in limited ammounts. Mainly to minimize the damage caused to your buff troops. But you have to be careful. Too many trash troops might start a general trash rout. And a general trash rout can affect decent, but not "impetuous" units.

In general, against an eçual numbers army, I´d use them as auxiliary troops to flank when proffessionals are in the field, and as a meatshield for them when necessary (say, a Mongol Heavycav charge against your Men At Arms. Toss in the middle an urban militia unit so that the blunt charge is received by the UM and not the MAA, and afterwards proceed to surround&kill the offending Mongol unit with the remnants of your UM, and your mostly intact MAA), and in small numbers at a time (say, one third of the number of proffessionals). That way even if they rout, or are massacred, you still have plenty of spares to summon. It will still save you lives of your better soldiers, allow you to win the battle faster, and you will avoid a "mass scare" rout, which might result in humongous losses both to your trash and your "better" troops. In any event, keep them on the rear and move them foward only when necessary. That way you might prevent them withstanding battles which are not necessarily unwinable, but might result in panic.

(for the record, I lost Novgorod against an army which I nominally would have been able to beat, if my trash infantry hadn't panicked-battling trash infantry,of all things-, and caused my M-A-A to panic in turn, which resulted in my general getting captured. Luckily I had set my MAA close enough to the border so that most of them survived.)

[Maloncanth]

I tend to focus on minimum force necessary. Large armies are expensive and take too many mouse clicks though ironically, disbanding stuff takes even more. 2,000 decent troops with even a bump though, can basically run through any reasonable number of enemies in any mod I've played, so large armies are ungainly, expensive and micromanagement-intensive gestures.

And let's face it, even if they were necessary, I doubt I'd have the energy to go through with such a long battle.

In many of my games, my largest armies never see combat or in those rare instances I insist on playing Conquest, don't see combat until the end. Those are armies running 3-5 stacks whose purpose for much of the game is simply discouraging AI aggression so I can sit on a point lead.

Sometimes, I'll pile together large armies for auto-resolve. Those tend to also run 3-5 stacks or about 2500-4000.

Very occasionally, I run armies bigger than that. That absolute most number of troops I'd ever had to actually use was 4500 when I took some Spanish trash into Khazar to fight the horde. Armies at or above 5,000 are very rare for me. My record is under 9,000 Cumans.