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    Nobody expects the Senior Member Lemur's Avatar
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    Default Re: Was the US justified in removing the Taliban from power in Afghanistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman
    No it was not justified , the justification used was that the Taliban refused to comply with the demands placed on it .
    There was no way they could comply with the demands .
    Impossible demands negate the justification .
    This seems to be the heart of your argument, as far as I can make it out. That and the CBS new item you linked, which doesn't seem tremendously relevant.

    Asked whether the Taliban would hand over bin Laden, Zaeef said, "No." But his translator said, "No, not without evidence."

    He also said he had no information on bin Laden's current whereabouts.

    Are you accepting the Taliban's position at face value? Even though cooperation between AQ and the Talibs was well-documented and longstanding? Or is there something else that you're aiming for? At this point, baiting Don and declaring that you've already proved your point isn't helpful. Please clarify so that we may understand where you're coming from.

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    Default Re: Was the US justified in removing the Taliban from power in Afghanistan?

    So Louis this Jesusville ultimatum , this final demand ,what would the process of reaching that final demand be ? It seems that all steps in that process are flawed .
    We shouldn't look at all the steps in the process. We should focus on the ultimatum. There is a clear ultimatum with demands Liechtenstein could easily comply with. This ultimatum is used by America as its justification for the attack. Unless you want to argue that an ultimatum is not an ultimatum, America's nuclear destruction of Liechtenstein is therefore justified.

    Or is it?

    No, of course not. What I demonstrated above, is a reversal of your position. It uses the same rhetorical fallacy as your argument about Afghanistan below, the heart of your argument.
    I've demonstrated the nature of the fallacy in my previous post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman
    No it was not justified , the justification used was that the Taliban refused to comply with the demands placed on it .
    There was no way they could comply with the demands .
    Impossible demands negate the justification .
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