Ah how refreshing.......

**Banquo's Ghost** · 05-09-2007, 18:41

Oh please let's get some perspective on this.

For example, there's a British Muslim comedienne, Shazia Mirza - yes, a woman - who is widely popular and scathing with jokes on her own religion. She's quite funny too - and remarkably alive.

Sheesh.

**Don Corleone** · 05-09-2007, 18:46

Well, did I imagine the Danish cartoon riots? Why exactly did Van Gogh get knifed to death again? And why did Salman Rushdie have to go into hiding? Maybe I'm suffering from faulty memories.

**Fragony** · 05-09-2007, 18:56

Originally Posted by Don Corleone

Well, did I imagine the Danish cartoon riots? Why exactly did Van Gogh get knifed to death again? And why did Salman Rushdie have to go into hiding? Maybe I'm suffering from faulty memories.

Actually he was shot and then he tried to remove the head. These things happen because we have too much respect for the islam and are too willing to listen to their absolutily insane demands, or give in even before the muslims know they demand it. Van Gogh was knived to death because we have given muslims too much a feeling that they should be respected, frankly I don't respect them, not one bit. They should be able to live with that, if not, well their loss.

**Don Corleone** · 05-09-2007, 19:10

You know the old question about what happens when an unstoppable body in motion collides with an immovable object? I think that's exactly what's going to happen here. Thus far, I've seen nothing to suggest that the outrage and manic reaction to criticism in some corners of extremist Islam, found around the globe, would take a backseat to the famous Dutch tolerance/ability to laugh/poke fun at all comers. Maybe this is just me. I'm not saying Muslims will riot. I'm saying the sort of Muslims that riot over Danish cartoons or issue death threats over Satanic Verses are not going to grit their teeth peacefully when a song comes out telling them where to shove the prophet or implying that they engage in ovine love.

**Stig** · 05-09-2007, 19:12

For our Dutch (and Flemish) friends, I real good song that isn't offensive and only makes the laugh about ourselves:
http://variatee.vara.nl/mediaplayer/...panters.player

frankly I don't respect them, not one bit. They should be able to live with that, if not, well their loss.

Give me one reason why I should respect you then?

**Andres** · 05-09-2007, 19:23

Originally Posted by Stig

For our Dutch (and Flemish) friends, I real good song that isn't offensive and only makes the laugh about ourselves:
http://variatee.vara.nl/mediaplayer/...panters.player

**Bijo** · 05-09-2007, 20:34

Originally Posted by Stig

For our Dutch (and Flemish) friends, I real good song that isn't offensive and only makes the laugh about ourselves:
http://variatee.vara.nl/mediaplayer/...panters.player

Agh, what a terrible song. But one thing in those lyrics is true, though: "we're afraid of Islam." And of course the setting looks like some kind of peasant village or something like that, heh heh.

Oh but I don't think he will be, I think this is just the splash of comedy we so desperatily need. Things always get worse before they get better, and this gives me the feeling that we are passed that, just because nothing will happen. I don't think we need to remind the muslim community how close they were to being in very very serious trouble. This is good, for all of us.

Frag, I think there's gonna be trouble. It's not good, for nobody. Well, maybe for you and others who enjoy this mockery and comedic stuff, to give you a laugh, and perhaps it's good for the guy who makes money out of it, ratings, here and there, this and that, but it's not good eventually.

I say again: they will take care of him.... somehow.

**Kralizec** · 05-10-2007, 00:45

For the sake of balance, here's one that makes fun of a certain right wing politician:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXHFXdJUMx8

**Bijo** · 05-10-2007, 16:51

Originally Posted by Fenring

For the sake of balance, here's one that makes fun of a certain right wing politician:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXHFXdJUMx8

I find it untasty. Hah hah, look at that: I'm actually giving an opinion :)

**Adrian II** · 05-09-2007, 19:06

Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost

Oh please let's get some perspective on this.

For example, there's a British Muslim comedienne, Shazia Mirza - yes, a woman - who is widely popular and scathing with jokes on her own religion.

And has been getting death threats ever since. The point is not that there are no free-spirited Muslims, the point is that they are constantly being threatened.

Originally Posted by Conradus

I thought Hans quit with cabaret. Love his work though.Some are just classics.
Nostradamus met z'n strakke groene broek...

"Vette pech voor de kabouters." I literally wet my pants over that one (with beer though, not with you-know-what..).