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    Default Re: UN Security Council Reform

    I'm all for abolishing the veto, I don't mind the members that always remain there but the vetos are the things that prevent things from happening. If France, Russia, and China hadn't been able to threaten a veto in 2002/03 over the Iraq issue I feel that the US would have actually put the issue up to vote. Saddam would probably not have counted on a veto protecting him and not assumed that Bush was bluffing invasion and trying to call it as that.

    Same bit with Israel, the US could still give Israel the support it wants but couldn't veto every motion against Israel.

    I don't think this would make the UN as impotent as the League of Nations, not having veto powers does not mean that nations will just ignore the resolutions passed by the UN.

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    Default Re: UN Security Council Reform

    the veto does force the SC to be unanimous however, thus a decision by the SC carries real weight as it it the combined will of the most powerful nations on earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculu5
    the veto does force the SC to be unanimous however, thus a decision by the SC carries real weight as it it the combined will of the most powerful nations on earth.
    Fair point - however, coming to decisions is difficult enough currently. Add 2-3 more nations (nations that would add a lot more diversity of interests to the SC) and coming to any decisions will be next to impossible if the current veto system isn't changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ser Clegane
    Fair point - however, coming to decisions is difficult enough currently. Add 2-3 more nations (nations that would add a lot more diversity of interests to the SC) and coming to any decisions will be next to impossible if the current veto system isn't changed.
    i accept that.

    the Sc is going to get bigger, and thus the veto will get more unwieldy.

    it would have to be more than just simple majority, or the SC would appear to lack authority. i.e. if there were seven members then a majority of 5 would be required at a minimum.

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    I'm not that much interested which nation(s) will be dominant as superpower(s) -- though it's important -- but more interested in who's pulling the strings behind the scenes at the highest level to influence the globe. Everything in this world is a tool, and a country can be used as such.
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    i think the bilderburg group is a bit beyond the scope of this debate.

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    I am totally in favour of India joining the SC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculu5
    i think the bilderburg group is a bit beyond the scope of this debate.

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