UN Security Council Reform

**JR-** · 05-10-2007, 22:15

Originally Posted by Ser Clegane

Fair point - however, coming to decisions is difficult enough currently. Add 2-3 more nations (nations that would add a lot more diversity of interests to the SC) and coming to any decisions will be next to impossible if the current veto system isn't changed.

i accept that.

the Sc is going to get bigger, and thus the veto will get more unwieldy.

it would have to be more than just simple majority, or the SC would appear to lack authority. i.e. if there were seven members then a majority of 5 would be required at a minimum.

**Bijo** · 05-10-2007, 22:22

I'm not that much interested which nation(s) will be dominant as superpower(s) -- though it's important -- but more interested in who's pulling the strings behind the scenes at the highest level to influence the globe. Everything in this world is a tool, and a country can be used as such.

**JR-** · 05-10-2007, 22:26

i think the bilderburg group is a bit beyond the scope of this debate.

BOT -

I am totally in favour of India joining the SC.

**Bijo** · 05-11-2007, 17:28

Originally Posted by Furunculu5

i think the bilderburg group is a bit beyond the scope of this debate.

BOT -

I am totally in favour of India joining the SC.

**rory_20_uk** · 05-11-2007, 18:33

First off the UN is basically something for the Big Boys to rubber stamp what they want. It functions at all as there are only a few with any real clout. If that wre to be opened up we'd end up with paralysis.

But, to play along...

I liked the idea of NAFTA, Commonwealth, EU being 3 of them with possibly others rotating.

**Conradus** · 05-12-2007, 18:11

Apart from adding countries as Brazil, India, ... to the council, I'd say abolish the veto, or in any case make sure the veto can be overruled by a 2/3? or something majority. As it is, the countries with a veto make each action of the council a pain to get on the tracks. Having France over Germany in the council doesn't make much sense either at the moment. If the EU were to grow into one political entity, they'd deserve a place there.

**JR-** · 05-12-2007, 19:18

france can project power
france has nukes
france has vast territory
france sits at the heart of french speaking and french associated nations

there is four reasons why france should be on the SC and not germany. :)

**Conradus** · 05-12-2007, 20:08

Originally Posted by Furunculu5

france can project power
france has nukes
france has vast territory
france sits at the heart of french speaking and french associated nations

there is four reasons why france should be on the SC and not germany. :)

On the other hand, Germany can also project power, they could easily develop nukes if the need ever arose, they have more citizens than France and are better developed economically. They're about the same size, but they indeed lack the 'trust' France has in its former colonies.