Another HRE-Rush

**John_Longarrow** · 07-10-2007, 23:53

Bob,

The things that will slow down a blitzer would be
1) Stronger garrisons in Rebel territory
2) Lower the amount sacking gives
3) Reduced Merc availablitity
4) Increase unrest due to distance from capitol. This would require a larger garrison and more "Happy" buildings to be made before you can afford to move troops out.
5) Make Rebel territories either Pagan or Heritic. Same as 4, but you are limited based on how quickly you can move through religious agents.

4 and 5 slow down a blitz because you run into unrest problems. They won't impact a "Kill everyone else" blitzer, but they will slow down a take and hold blitzer.

**icek** · 07-11-2007, 10:18

and most of all teaching cpu to defend theyr cities. now ai do it with standard rtw vanilla routine. they land they armies near city hoping for 2:1 armies battle but good general can do a night battle and first take the almost undefended city and then defeat single army.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 02-06-2008, 06:31

Fastest Long Campaign of All Time?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

HRE 45 provinces and Rome.
Version 1.02

Result:

Generals: 18
Battles Won: 60
Battles Lost: 3
Cities: 23
Castles: 23
Provinces held: 46
Year: 1100

Turn: 11

I realized this was possible during my Blitz All Challenge campaign... once I got to 45 provinces by turn 14... I decided to load my save file from turn 8 and go for the gold medal for the HRE Long Campaign as well.

There were some tough battles. Outmaneuvering the Pope, getting excommunicated, finishing a crusade on turn 9, slaughtering nearly all of France on the final turn... it was epic.

AAR will follow.... stay tuned.

**ReiseReise** · 02-06-2008, 12:06

Thats amazing atpg. Will you reclaim some part of your former title now or do you have to win Blitz All?

**Askthepizzaguy** · 02-06-2008, 15:52

Originally Posted by ReiseReise

Thats amazing atpg. Will you reclaim some part of your former title now or do you have to win Blitz All?

I did win the Blitz All....

Check it out. That ones even more impressive.

28 turn victory, 106 provinces.

Listen, I am pretty proud of my achievement, but in light of the recent Patriots Bowl loss, I know just how awful it is to hear people gloat.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

So rather than drop confetti on myself and crank up "We are the Champions"... I am simply going to humbly say, great effort to all who participated in the challenges, and I sincerely hope someone will attempt to dethrone me again. THIS time, it will not be an easy matter. Hold on to your butts, because 106 provinces in 28 turns is roughly 3.9 provinces per turn, and 46 provinces in 11 turns is 4.18 provinces per turn, and much of that was under excommunication.

You guys are going to enjoy the AAR... but it's roughly 600 images now.

Gonna be a while before I can build it.

Oh, what the hell.... enjoy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sogKUx_q7ig

**SirRethcir** · 02-07-2008, 11:22

Originally Posted by askthepizzaguy

Fastest Long Campaign of All Time?
HRE 45 provinces and Rome.
Version 1.02

Result:

Generals: 18
Battles Won: 60
Battles Lost: 3
Cities: 23
Castles: 23
Provinces held: 46
Year: 1100

Turn: 11

Well, well...
... Have to talk to Schlieffen ... Need a plan ...

**Askthepizzaguy** · 02-09-2008, 06:47

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Would anyone like the save files posted so that you can examine my progress on each turn?

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=99026
My HRE thread (under construction... LOTS of images warning!)

**Csargo** · 02-09-2008, 09:35

I tried this last night and I did pretty decent for a guy who knows nothing about blitzing. I had around 10 provinces with 2-3 cities about to be assaulted at turn 4 but was excom. by the pope and decided I probably wouldn't fair well after that.

**Ignoramus** · 02-09-2008, 11:26

That's amazing. You deserve an Org Award for that. I'd give it a crack at beating it, but I MTWII won't run on my computer at the moment.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 02-09-2008, 14:11

Originally Posted by Ichigo

I tried this last night and I did pretty decent for a guy who knows nothing about blitzing. I had around 10 provinces with 2-3 cities about to be assaulted at turn 4 but was excom. by the pope and decided I probably wouldn't fair well after that.

HINT:

If you need to do something that could get you excommunicated, here is how you avoid it.

1. Don't get warned. If you accomplish what you want in a single turn, you can't even get warned.

2. If you need two turns, MAKE SURE RELATIONS WITH THE POPE ARE PERFECT FIRST, so your warning is just a warning, not a threat.

3. Ballista/catapults can take cities in a single turn... this means you can wipe out empires (FRANCE) in the blink of an eye. No warnings.

4. If you have completed a crusade or have been wiping out factions, your glory and fear bonuses OFFSET excommunication public order penalties.

It's as if you never got excommunicated, and you can act with impunity.

**SirRethcir** · 02-09-2008, 18:53

Originally Posted by Ichigo

I tried this last night and I did pretty decent for a guy who knows nothing about blitzing. I had around 10 provinces with 2-3 cities about to be assaulted at turn 4 but was excom. by the pope and decided I probably wouldn't fair well after that.

I had 20 or so. ;)

Ok, askthepizzaguy, take this:

Wuhuuu!!!

I was heading for a 10 turn victory, so the last turn was a bit tricky. ;)

Conclusion:
So, one can make it in 8 turns.
In my 8th turn I had 42 Provinces. With two intelligent fought battles I could have captured two more cities, but I had totally forgotten to prepare the assault on Rome (e.g. to build a siege weapon), so I had to wait another turn.
(Sh.. happens! )