Another HRE-Rush

[SirRethcir]

Well my problem was I didn't have enough troops to continue to go on. I used a lot of mercenaries but that seemed to put a damper on my treasury. I could get a little cash from diplomacy and sacking but not really enough to continue my war machine.

The money is not the problem, the shortage of troops is.
.. But 'crusades' is the magic word. ;)

PS: Added a picture and an animated GIF.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Certainly impressive.

I will endeavor to meet or beat that record. Busy now with my massive new Blitz thread for the blitz all challenge.

Congratulations, SirRethcir, I have since removed the title from my Sig. It is yours now.

[SirRethcir]

Certainly impressive.

I will endeavor to meet or beat that record. Busy now with my massive new Blitz thread for the blitz all challenge.

Congratulations, SirRethcir, I have since removed the title from my Sig. It is yours now.

Thanks!
I'm certain you reclaim the title sooner or later.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Hail, mein Kasier.

I probably would have done better if it weren't for my options before turn 8... I simply loaded from my Blitz All Campaign and went from turn 8.

Those first 8 turns were spent trying to move into position for a 106 province victory, not merely a 45 province victory.

With adjustments to the strategy, I feel confident we will at least be sharing that title.

But as I said, you deserve the award. It's not a simple matter to beat these new records. The old ones stood for a while.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I managed to get near 45 provinces on turn 8, but I wasn't even close to taking Rome at the time.

My strategy was flawed thusly: I used every available general as a crusader unit. Apparently it will be more useful to divide the crusaders in half... some go on the crusade, some don't. Some will join later, and some will leave the crusade to take France.

I also did not use ballista properly. I will remedy that.

In my opinion, you can't really do it in 8 turns. But I will try. There is just so little time to assemble the troops.

I should have left the crusade when I took Breslau, so I could wipe out Poland. That would have put me over the top.

I should have assaulted France straight away after I took the Belgian provinces.

I wasted turns trying to crusade into moorish territory for 4 freebie provinces.

I got three out of the four, though, with one crusade stack, plus a rebel province. You seem to have managed only two in the Iberian peninsula. I think I can beat that.

I also had a grand oppurtunity to take Hungary, which would have also improved upon what you accomplished. A simple strike with militia troops and a ballista unit will take the Hungarian capital.

I also note that you seem to have gifted Zagreb to the Pope? You can avoid that and still get a crusade going.

Sell maps, alliances, and offers to attack until you have about 4000 florins. That way you can overcome your sacking reputation hit and still get a crusade. Alternatively, do not sack for the first two turns, and all a crusade on turn 3. Aim for the Pope's diplomat north of Rome with a peasant, or take Florence turn 2, to start negotiations.

If I plan well, it will be easy to meet your record on the next attempt. However, getting 8 turn victory may not happen. We shall see...

Good show.

If I do indeed manage the Long Campaign victory in 8 turns, I still don't think that strategy will be useful at all for taking all 106 provinces. The first crusade needs to get you to the 4 corners of the map, and you can't do that and meet Long Campaign conditions by turn 8. Rome alone costs you several crusade turns.

Therefore, I remain confident that my Blitz All Challenge record will remain untouched for a while, and we will be sharing the Kaiser of Blitz crown as well.

Hail, future co-regent of the Long Campaign!

[SirRethcir]

I managed to get near 45 provinces on turn 8, but I wasn't even close to taking Rome at the time.

My strategy was flawed thusly: I used every available general as a crusader unit. Apparently it will be more useful to divide the crusaders in half... some go on the crusade, some don't. Some will join later, and some will leave the crusade to take France.

I also did not use ballista properly. I will remedy that.

I didn't have a single ballista, that was the problem. ;)
Also, I didn't use my spies to open city gates.

Concerning crusades:
Are you aware that you can attack catholic factions with a crusading army?
Thats a little flaw I discovered because of pure despair.

I also note that you seem to have gifted Zagreb to the Pope? You can avoid that and still get a crusade going.

Well a that time a had no cross. So it was absolutely necessary.
I never said it was a perfect rush.

Therefore, I remain confident that my Blitz All Challenge record will remain untouched for a while, [...]

Well I will not try this record. So, no danger from my side.

[Askthepizzaguy]

1. I didn't have a single ballista, that was the problem. ;)
Also, I didn't use my spies to open city gates.

2. Concerning crusades:
Are you aware that you can attack catholic factions with a crusading army?
Thats a little flaw I discovered because of pure despair.

3. Well a that time a had no cross. So it was absolutely necessary.
I never said it was a perfect rush.

4. Well I will not try this record. So, no danger from my side.

1. I had a whole one spy from the beginning. First, wasting time building brothels. Second, the tier one spies they churn out by mid campaign are useless. I did manage to use ballistas to take Rome, Venice, and so forth.

2. You can attack excommunicated catholics, and defend yourseld against ambushes which get them excommunicated, and you can also reinforce a stack that is being attacked with crusaders. However, it is otherwise impossible to attack with crusading armies against Catholics.

3. Nearly perfect. 8 turns would be perfect.

4. I am certain someone will try. What is the point of holding a record no one ever challenges?