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    MPAA adds smoking as film-rating factor By DAVID GERMAIN, AP Movie Writer
    Thu May 10, 6:59 PM ET



    Smoking will be a bigger factor in determining film ratings, the Motion Picture Association of America said Thursday, but critics said the move does not go far enough to discourage teens from taking up the habit.

    MPAA Chairman Dan Glickman said his group's ratings board, which previously had considered underage smoking in assigning film ratings, now will take into account smoking by adults, as well.

    That adds smoking to a list of such factors as sex, violence and language in determining the MPAA's G, PG, PG-13, R and NC-17 ratings.

    Film raters will consider the pervasiveness of tobacco use, whether it glamorizes smoking and the context in which smoking appears, as in movies set in the past when smoking was more common.

    Some critics of Hollywood's depictions of tobacco in films have urged that movies that show smoking be assigned an R rating, which would restrict those younger than 17 from seeing them.

    "I'm glad it's finally an issue they're taking up, but what they're proposing does not go far enough and is not going to make a difference," said Kori Titus, spokeswoman for Breathe California, which opposes film images of tobacco use that might encourage young people to start smoking.

    Glickman said a mandatory R rating for smoking would not "further the specific goal of providing information to parents on this issue."

    Smoking in movies with a G, PG or PG-13 rating has been on the decline, and the "percentage of films that included even a fleeting glimpse of smoking" declined from 60 percent to 52 percent between July 2004 and July 2006," Glickman said.

    Of those films, three-fourths received an R rating for other reasons, he said.

    "That means there's not a great amount of films in the unrestricted category as it stands," said Joan Graves, who heads the ratings board. "We've not saying we're ignoring the issue. We're trying the best way possible according to what we've learned from parents to give them information about what's in a film."

    Titus said smoking in films had declined in recent years but remains more prevalent than MPAA figures indicate.

    Descriptions on sex, violence and language that accompany movie ratings now will include such phrases as "glamorized smoking" or "pervasive smoking," Glickman said.

    If rated today, a film such as 2005's "Good Night, and Good Luck," about chain-smoking newsman Edward R. Murrow, would have carried a "pervasive smoking" tag but probably would have retained its PG rating because of its historical context in the 1950s, Graves said.

    Titus said film raters should be as tough on smoking as they are on bad language to minimize the effects of on-screen smoking on children, including her own 5-year-old daughter.

    "I don't want her using that language, but last time I checked, she's probably not going to die from that," Titus said. "If she starts smoking from these images she sees in movies, chances are she's probably going to die early from that."

    While Titus' group wants tougher ratings restrictions, the MPAA released statements of support for its plan from John Seffrin, chief executive officer of the American Cancer Society, U.S. Sen. Joe Biden and filmmaker Rob Reiner, among others.

    "By placing smoking on a par with considerations of violence and sex, the rating board has acknowledged the public-health dangers to children associated with glamorized images of a toxic and lethal addiction to tobacco," Barry Bloom, dean of the Harvard School of Public Health, said in a statement released by the MPAA.
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    I am not a smoker but a little voice in my head finds this ridiculous. Perhaps a bit of a liberal streak is glaring through my scales here, but if I am getting the gist of this adult theme's in movies not intended for children are going to be subject to additional scrutiny because of the potential impact of smoking on children

    Any one else have thoughts on this?
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    I want tags for 'pervasive junk food' and 'desensitization towards obesity' next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proletariat
    I want tags for 'pervasive junk food' and 'desensitization towards obesity' next.
    Whats troubling to me as a movie fan is that adult content (not necessarily gratitous sex) is governed by this board. The example of "good night and good luck" is worthy of note due to its historical content.

    Applied today under this film rating factor this might remove part of the ambiance of the movie. I dont need to see actors smoking, but in some cases its meritous of the condition.

    I would just prefer another solution (which I dont have one handy) to remedy the ability of children to see adult content via movies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proletariat
    I want tags for 'pervasive junk food' and 'desensitization towards obesity' next.
    Burp!

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Film_Is_Not_Yet_Rated

    Censorship in America is one of those perception deals that is generally dominated by a group with an agenda. In this case, it is more about supporting the major film studios - than any noble under taking about protecting children from bad things (i.e. Cigs and sex are more dangerous for kids than their seeing brains and blood splattered across the screen.).

    The film rating concept is a good idea being twisted to suit the dominating powers of the industry, and intended to limit the the introduction of films made by independants - its all about money. Nothing more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KafirChobee
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This-Film-Not-Yet-Rated

    Censorship in America is one of those perception deals that is generally dominated by a group with an agenda. In this case, it is more about supporting the major film studios - than any noble under taking about protecting children from bad things (i.e. Cigs and sex are more dangerous for kids than their seeing brains and blood splattered across the screen.).

    The film rating concept is a good idea being twisted to suit the dominating powers of the industry, and intended to limit the the introduction of films made by independants - its all about money. Nothing more.
    I'm glad you replied.

    The wiki link didnt go anywhere just "Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name" I looked at the sublinks as well.

    That said i concur that censorship is often based on single group (given a specific issue). I tend to agree that its fluff (If i am getting your sentiment correct), cigs are an easy target to censor and might get some PR brownie points (how many video games do the gun weilding shooters have butts hanging out of thier mouths?).

    It might be about money KC, there are few issues that dont have that angle anyway, but the MPAA is an independent body, and thats a little unnerving for me. Its a special intrest group (so it appears anyway) and I would much rather have something more concrete via adult content.

    Might level the playing field for the indy film makers too, If michael moore does a documentary with a few people smoking does this new "tag" give someone the ability to change his movie rating and thus make his feature non viable for the mainstream?

    I personally prefer something more of a adult theme theatre (not XXX mind you) but something where I can go see "Babel" uncut and see what the director wanted me to see via his original cut. Of course that might screw up his DVD release later and negate additional revenue which the movie studios wouldnt like, but I digress....
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    Are they suggesting that what is portrayed in films may alter the behavior of impressionable youths?


    Such is sacrilege in Hollywood.

    when aimed at sex or violence, not any cause they wish to undertake or quasi PC campaign which are only masked money grabs
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    Proles back!

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    I find the movie ratings concerning violence rather silly. The "happyslapping" movies where violence is portrayed as fun and entertaining is suitable for children. However, depictions showing the hard and scary reality of violence is banned.

    What do we want? Do we want our children to grow up thinking violence is fun or serious? Which movie is most likely to get a 5-year old to copy it: donald duck happyslapping, or Saw?
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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