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    Default Truce? Huh?!? News to me....

    This happened to me twice last night.

    I'm forced into war by aggressive christians despite my peace loving Turkish credentials (well I've been trying for the last 40 turns anyway - now got 4 vassals, at least 2 allies each turn and never start a war).

    Outraged I try to teach them a lesson, sending armies to crush them.

    New turn occurs and...I'm told I've declared a truce!! I haven't had a ceasefire offer to reject, just forced into peace.

    The only thing I can think (patch 1.2. official) is that they've signed a ceasfire with one of my vassals, who has declared war inoutrage also,which then means me too.

    I'm not sure, as I didn't pay enough attention to what my vassals did dipomatically, but that's the only thing I can think of.

    It would mean diplomacy working much better now (even if sometimes annoyingly)

    Anyone else had this?

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    Your enemy might also have allied with one of your allies, a move us player can't pull off but the AI can, and which shoves peace down your throat (not only that, but if you re-declare war, you risk losing your ally...)
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    Default Re: Truce? Huh?!? News to me....

    Sorry wasn't clear - It wasn't that. I checked and they're not allied to any of mine (even 1 removed, allied to an ally of an ally).

    However I can't tell, as it dismissed screen too fast, whether they made peace with an ally and thus with me or whether my ally made peace because I did.

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    Didn't you know the game is called Medieval 2 Total Peace
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    This has happened to me too a couple of times and I have never had a vassal.

    It must be the AI's cunning plan to lead you into a false sense of security - before it delivers a surprise attack.

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    Weeeell... If you're like me and usually skip the by-turn global diplomacy screen, this scenario could have happened :

    - you hit end turn
    - faction A (either your enemy or vassal, most probably your enemy) turn starts.
    - faction A sends a diplomat to faction B, negotiates alliance
    - faction A ends turn
    - faction B turn starts
    - faction B does something aggressive/stupid/random which causes said alliance to be voided (assassin, invasion or blockade, failed diplomacy, bribe, attack on faction C which is allied with faction A, Venus in Libra announcing the dawn of the Age of Aquarius...)
    - your turn starts, you skim through the messages, make a move against your enemy and notice through the "attack neutral faction yes/no ?" window that you're in an unexpected truce. You check the diplo screen, but no alliance is listed between A and B.
    - You're puzzled, and post here

    Unlikely and/or coincidental series of occurences, but anything that can happen is bound to happen sometimes, no ?
    Last edited by Kobal2fr; 05-12-2007 at 15:05.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobal2fr
    Your enemy might also have allied with one of your allies, a move us player can't pull off but the AI can, and which shoves peace down your throat (not only that, but if you re-declare war, you risk losing your ally...)
    I made a Hungarian princess marry my hier and did get Milan to auto-ceasefire with me. Made the HRE ask for allying me the same turn.
    That Milan attacked me the turn after forcing them to break the alliance with Milan was even better.

    That the Moors, Portugal, Milan, France and Venice are finding a ceasefire worth about half my empire is another matter though (playing as Spain)...
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