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    Default What goverment system

    Concurrently I am playing as Macedons. I have captured the settlement above Pella which is Serdika. Should I implement I or II gov system. If I am not wrong, I would give me the Companion Calv and Elite Pike which are further down my campaign. But II would give me access to units like Pantodapoi Phlangitai, which i checked the cards for offline use has axe as secondary weapon, which compared to my standard Deuteroi Phlangitai sword is much better in terms of lethality and the axe as A/P. If I have been on the wrong track cause I am not entirely sure how MIC and Gov system are related properly, jus correct me.

    Thnks in advance.

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    Lightbulb Re: What goverment system

    The EB MIC system is explained here. Simply put, a type I governement will give you access to all factional units that can be recruited in a province, but a very limited selection of local troops. Type II gives access to most factional troops, except the top-level ones, but has a slightly wider range of local recruitment. Type III gives most local recruitment options, but limited faction unit recruitment; and Type IV gives maximal local recruitment option, but very limited factional.

    To make things more complex, however, recruitment options vary through provinces. I am not sure that you can recruit Hetairoi in Serdike even if you have a type I governement and a level 5 factional MIC. IIRC these are only available in Pella and Demetrias, and the capitals of the other major successor states. Similarly, Pantodapoi units are eastern units in Greek service, so you won't find those in a Thracian province. The only local recruitment options you have there are Thracian units.
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    Pantodapoi Phlangitai are not recruitable by Macedon anywhere.
    You wont get Companion Cav in this province aither.
    Your best choice is Homland government, unless You want to get only Regional unit in this province, Texais Triballoi ( Level 4 ).

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    I think you do get companion cav actualy, but the best way to experiment is to save the game and then use add_money, macedon 40000 and process_cq "Serdike" to find out what ou rercuitment options are.

    P.S. A little tip: take Tylis and build a type 4, and then the highest regional mic gives you a brilliant selection of troops; thrakain prodromoi, thrakian peltastai, galatikoi Kuarathoroi (S.P.) galatakoi kuldargon, laosate, and of course, taxeis triabolloi.
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    From description I assume he means province Dardanoia.

    This are exact recruitment possibilities for this province.

    Akontistai Complex:11 Level:1
    Taxeis Phalangitai Complex:11 Level:2
    Sphendonetai Complex:11 Level:2
    Thraikioi Hippeis Complex:11 Level:3
    Thraikioi Prodromoi Complex:11 Level:4
    Thraikioi Peltastai Complex:11 Level:4
    Taxeis Triballoi Complex:25 Level:4
    Agrianikoi Pelekephoroi Complex:11 Level:4
    Hypaspistai Complex:11 Level:5
    11 is Native Complex number for Macedonia.
    25 is Regional Complex number.

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    As a rule build the highest government you can in homland and subjugation provinces. Anywhere else build a type 4, especially as Makedonia.
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    Default AW: Re: What goverment system

    Quote Originally Posted by LorDBulA
    From description I assume he means province Dardanoia.

    This are exact recruitment possibilities for this province.


    Akontistai Complex:11 Level:1
    Taxeis Phalangitai Complex:11 Level:2
    Sphendonetai Complex:11 Level:2
    Thraikioi Hippeis Complex:11 Level:3
    Thraikioi Prodromoi Complex:11 Level:4
    Thraikioi Peltastai Complex:11 Level:4
    Taxeis Triballoi Complex:25 Level:4
    Agrianikoi Pelekephoroi Complex:11 Level:4
    Hypaspistai Complex:11 Level:5


    11 is Native Complex number for Macedonia.
    25 is Regional Complex number.
    Hmmm, I can recruit Pheraspidai there, what's wrong? I have 0.81, applied a couple of different fixes for both 0.81 and 0.81a. Could that be the reason or did you change the recruitment zone for Pheraspidai in 0.81a?

    I can basically recruit Pheraspidai in every province where I can recruit Hypaspistai (and I think it makes sense), which I can recruit in all Homeland provinces.

    This came to my mind when I took a look at Arkatreides' recruitment zone cards, and realized that Pheraspidai are less recruitable than Hypaspistai, according to his cards.

    So, one of us is wrong. Perhaps you've had an recruitment accident?

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