Rise of Civilizations Part 2 [Concluded]

[Tran]

I'm assuming that everyone is going to trade with everyone to start out, unless specifically stated otherwise.

CR

Yes, that'll be good. And congrats too for...what, Caius? What promotion?

Anyway, can you list all the players and their starting city? It's kinda confusing reading post after post...

[Twilightblade]

Wait am I the etruscans I seem to remember something about etruscans and me

[CountArach]

Yes, yes you are.

[seireikhaan]

Indeed, it will be interesting to watch what happens with Central Italy. I will be going to grab some popcorn for the show.

Also, any who wish to speak with Carthaginian people, please consult the emmisary of the Grand General, Hannibal.

[Twilightblade]

Ahhh I shall now check the map again and see how I am to survive

[Crazed Rabbit]

A list of players and countries:

CountArach..................Rome
Twilightblade................Etruscans
Faust..........................Umbria
Pevergreen..................Illyria
Ignoramus...................Syracuse
GreaterKhan................Carthage
Crazed Rabbit..............Venice
Caius Flaminius.............Gaul
Tran...........................Sardinia
Orb............................Epeiros

Indeed, it will be interesting to watch what happens with Central Italy.

I guess the question is; who's going to be the saxons?

Crazed Rabbit

[Caius]

CR one, Tran.

I think we have 1 more slot.We can wait a few days, untill we discuss the surrender of everyone.

[Tran]

Caius approves, so here it is:

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A list of players and countries:

CountArach..................Rome
Twilightblade................Etruscan: Etruscans
Faust..........................Perugia: Umbria
Pevergreen..................Illyria
Ignoramus...................Syracuse
GreaterKhan................Carthage
Crazed Rabbit..............Venice
Caius Flaminius.............Segesta: Gaul
Tran...........................Karalis: Sardinia (Sandalyon)
Orb............................Taras: Epeiros

Fixed that for easier spot on map (am I correct?)

[Crazed Rabbit]

And congrats in the promotion!

Thanks!

Fixed that for easier spot on map (am I correct?)

Well, looks fine, if not that different, to me.

And now, a map of borders that really has no significance, but looks pretty:

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(In fact, I might increase the border range)

CR

[seireikhaan]

Ok, a couple of things. First of all, who do we send orders to? Caius or Rabbit? Second of all, is there any way we could reduce the maintenance on ships a wee bit? It'll be EXTREMELY expensive to try and maintain a massive fleet(Gee, can't imagine why I would be pointing that out). Third, do all of our capitals start at one? If not, what?

[Tran]

I'll add the fourth question. When you're besieging enemy castle or city, do you need to bring siege engines to be able to destroy the walls, gates, and invade the city? Or is it perhaps "irrelevant" for the city and castle of the period?

[Crazed Rabbit]

First of all, who do we send orders to? Caius or Rabbit?

Caius. He can tell me where the new cities will go - he doesn't have to tell me what level they are, economically - I can set up the new spreadsheet and all he has to do is enter the base tax rate. Or if you guys want I could do that too, but then I'd have to know the economic level of your cities.

Second of all, is there any way we could reduce the maintenance on ships a wee bit? It'll be EXTREMELY expensive to try and maintain a massive fleet(Gee, can't imagine why I would be pointing that out).

Well, one fleet only costs as much as 200 cavalry to support. I suppose we could cut it down a bit (60/120 support costs for in port and out of port?), but one fleet will transport 1000 soldiers.

What do you guys want? 60/120 or 55/110 might be better.

Third, do all of our capitals start at one? If not, what?

I think they start at three, or 600 gold per turn base taxes.

When you're besieging enemy castle or city, do you need to bring siege engines to be able to destroy the walls, gates, and invade the city? Or is it perhaps "irrelevant" for the city and castle of the period?

No, if we're going by Lucjan's rules, though I think cities confer some sort of defensive bonus.

Crazed Rabbit

[seireikhaan]

Oh, one more thing. Can I upgrade a city's economic level the same turn that I found it? Or do I have to wait till the next turn?

Also, if we have the funds to do so, can we upgrade a city's economic level multiple times per turn? For instance, taking a city from a 2 to a 4 in one turn.

[Crazed Rabbit]

If we're going by Lucjan's rules, you can found a city and upgrade it to level five in one turn.

CR

[Caius]

Oh, one more thing. Can I upgrade a city's economic level the same turn that I found it? Or do I have to wait till the next turn?

Also, if we have the funds to do so, can we upgrade a city's economic level multiple times per turn? For instance, taking a city from a 2 to a 4 in one turn.

You can do it in the same turn

Gah!CR beaten Caius

[Crazed Rabbit]

So should we make navy support costs 60 gold per turn per fleet while that fleet spends the turn in one of your ports, and 120 gold per turn when that fleet is sailing around?
Or 55/110 gold per turn?

What do you guys think?

CR

[seireikhaan]

Vote: 55/110

[Orb]

Vote: 60/120

[Crazed Rabbit]

Vote: 55/110

Crazed Rabbit

[pevergreen]

Vote: 55/110

Crazed Rabbit

(same)

[CountArach]

55/110

Bandwagon!

[seireikhaan]

Sorry, CA, but until you submit your vote in the Vote: X format, we will not be able to count your vote.

[CountArach]

Vote: 55/110

Ahh! The voting period had not ended!

[Ignoramus]

I agree with the others. Fleets played a significant role in ancient warfare, especially in the Mediterranean. Therefore, it is logical to reduce the cost of upkeep.

Vote: 55/120

[Twilightblade]

Vote 55/110
with the upkeep of the navy and army it seems more logical to keep them to a fair amount and really its not that much smaller anyway

[Tran]

Vote: Orb
Vote: 55/110
Okay, I think we've enough votes. Lynch him it!

[seireikhaan]

Voting has been closed. 55/110 has been lynched. Writeup will be posted soon.

[Tran]

...who do we send orders to? Caius or Rabbit?...

Vote: Crazed Rabbit (basically, supporting CR)

Reasons:
1. Had been very helpful so far
2. Had been very and more enthusiast
3. Faster than CF
4. Is a more senior member

Beside, didn't CF said in other thread (MM I think) that he will be busy with many school tasks, homework, and others life activity? I guess CR has more free time

[Caius]

Anyway, I have weekends...

Well, vote now!
Vote:The Bald Diplomat

[seireikhaan]

Vote: Wascally Wabbit. No offense, Caius. CR's just done an outstanding job so far.