RTR or EB

[nanoman88]

Whats the difference between RTR and EB, I think EB has more factions but for some reason more people love RTR

[edyzmedieval]

EB has more factions, almost 500 units, TONS of buildings, unique units and buildings...Everything you want.

[Warmaster Horus]

EB is more realistic. Literrally.
This means, it adds many new contents (a true Cursus Honorum for Rome, a Triumphal system, a 4tpy, a supply system which has an effect on morale, the Olympic Games, new interesting factions such as the saba and saka, much more historical research from what I can tell, reforms for various factions, events such as recovering Alexander's body from Alexandria, many special sites which represents the wonders of the world, and plenty more stuff that I'm forgetting now)

RTR is more gameplay oriented, I think. It's been such a long time since I played it (I'm a RTR refugee, who came to EB)
Now, I played EB and I can't go back to RTR. I'm just so used to the features, and skins.

Basically, you should download RTR, play it a bit, then download EB, play that a bit and decide which you prefer. It all comes down to you.

And, welcome to the Org!

[Arkatreides]

Both are great mods and to be honest it all comes down to personal preference.

EB is 100% historical within the limits of the engine. This means however that it is slower paced and more hard work to get into than RTR. EB also has more features which means it runs ever so slightly slower.

RTR is way more historical than vanilla but it does sacrifice some historical accuracy in order to keep the game fast-paced and relatively easy to get into.

[Warmaster Horus]

It must also be noted that due to EB features slowing the computer down, you will have a loading screen (pre menu) of 10 minutes, if you have a decent computer.

[Moros]

10 minutes a exagerrated. My comp is far from the newest (it was top notch when I bought it but that is 4 years ago) and if I have to wait for 5 minutes, it would be long.

[atheotes]

Both are excellent Mods... I played RTR before coming to EB. RTR is easier to get started than EB. Prefering one over the other comes down to personal choice. I am happy that i played/play both.
One possible reason that more people play RTR than EB is bcos EB is still a beta. People might be hesitant to play for fear/hatred of CTDs. Atleast I know that is the reason i did not try EB earlier.

[Redmeth]

With all due respect to the E.B. team pre-0.8 had a beta feeling to it but it was clear that it was very ambitious and everything wasn't working quite right it really felt unpolished.
Never tried RTR but after playing EB 0.8 from january till now I have to say I'm not even considering anything else.

[Warmaster Horus]

Yeah, you're right, I may have been exagerating a bit Moros.

[Tiberius Nero]

Let's not forget that the current official version of RTR is ancient compared to the current one of EB; it figures that the current RTR cannot be compared with current EB on grounds of work put to it.

[blitzkrieg80]

don't ever forget that EB has the wonderful and unique Voice Mods of Shigawire et al (Gallic, Latin, and Greek in .81a, with many many more to come!)- that kind of detail which is seen by use of linguistics is just a small aspect of the historicism and dedication that makes EB great!

I've spent a lot of time on RTR and it's more vanilla-esc than EB, in my opinion that is (although RTR is hardly vanilla, with much more detail and history). Vanilla RTW is focus'ed on quick fun gameplay, so it's not necessarily a bad trait... Like a Hollywood movie has explosions, car chases and love scenes, which almost everyone enjoys. Thus popularity lies in the cheap thrill, and it's wonderful that a decent mod like RTR is so popular because it rises above cheap thrills... but if you want the ultimate experience: detailed buildings, units, factions, scripted historical events, character traits, AS WELL AS fun and gameplay- EB is where it's at. The only complaint I've ever really seen about it is it is so deep... so one can choose to dive in or one can skim the surface.

[Incongruous]

Again, one must remeber that RTR 6 and all its builds were brought out in '05 that is a heck of a long time ago. For the time it was awsome!
EB thus easily takes the win this time because it is so far in advance and the team is always to be congratulated for their dedication to something which must chomp away at their spare time.
A fairer comparison will be to compare RTR 7 with the next build of EB maybe?
RTR 7 offers things such as army pay levels, extra factions and increased unit detail.
EB offers more of a time warp, literally EB is a freakin interactive Classics class

EB 8.0 had me pumped and excited,
RTR 7 also has that effect.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

Hope some of the answers were helpful. These threads generally are not good for our own productivity, any single member's ability to keep their foot out of their mouth, and the relationship between the two mod teams. The answers here are obviously liable to be ones that favor EB I will add, so it's better to have these discussions off the EB forum.

I saw one of these on a general RTW modding forum over at TWC yesterday: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=98214

Here is one recently on this forum where they are "debating" the matter:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...t=82796&page=2

Someone trying to start it up a few days ago on the .com forum:
http://shoguntotalwar.yuku.com/topic...-Question.html




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