Torture Techniques Revealed at Gitmo

[PanzerJaeger]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,272492,00.html

WASHINGTON — An accused enemy combatant held at Guantanamo Bay told a military hearing he was physically as well as mentally tortured there by having to read a newsletter full of 'crap,' being forced to use unscented deodorant and shampoo and having to play sports with a ball that would not bounce.

Khan told an April 15 hearing called to determine whether he was rightly classified as an "enemy combatant" that he also had his baby pictures taken from him, that cleaners left marks on his cell walls and that detainees have no DVD players or other entertainment.


This is simply outrageous. I've long taken a hard line with the terrorists in Gitmo, but unscented deodorant? No DVD players? Shoddy maid services!?! WHAT?? Torturous techniques such as this cannot be tolerated in our Republic!

And if it wasnt evidently clear... with a bit of..

[BigTex]

Gitmo, horrid place. We need to shut it down and provide all enemy combatants with the best rooms at the hilton.

No dvd players, inmates in state penetentaries have it worse. Hopefully this will go a long way to queting the left.

[doc_bean]

Hopefully this will go a long way to silencing the left.

You really wonder why 'complaints' like this get out into the media every so often...

[Geoffrey S]

Ha, first terrorist I've heard of with a sense of humour!

[Grey_Fox]

Chunks of the transcript were removed, including what appears to be additional discussion of torture, including during his detention by the CIA.

Just pointing that bit out.

[Tribesman]

So 39 pages of transcript and all that is allowed to go public is minor stuff about conditions and facilities .

[Vladimir]

Just pointing that bit out.

Gitmo is a military prison not a CIA one correct?

[Grey_Fox]

Yes, but read it again - details of torture including during his detention by the CIA.

[PanzerJaeger]

So 39 pages of transcript and all that is allowed to go public is minor stuff about conditions and facilities .

If I was being tortured on a regular basis, I dont think the quality of my shampoo and a lack of DVD players would even come up in my complaint. It sort of waters things down ya know..

[Tribesman]

It sort of waters things down ya know..

In the absence of all complaints from all 39 pages only a fool would make that statement about what is contained in the transcript .
Decipher this ............ yesterday******************************************************************************************* **************************************************************************************************** ****************************************************then******************************************** **************************************************************************************************** ************and***************************************************************************blue****** **************************************************************************************************** *********************and my hat was too small .

OMG a small hat is that all it was

[Watchman]

This thread reminds me of that merry figure of speech about "getting hoist by your own petard"...

[HoreTore]

Fox News, now that is surprising....

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Or not.

[Lemur]

Torture is teh funny. Funy, funny torture.

[PanzerJaeger]

In the absence of all complaints from all 39 pages only a fool would make that statement about what is contained in the transcript .
Decipher this ............ yesterday******************************************************************************************* **************************************************************************************************** ****************************************************then******************************************** **************************************************************************************************** ************and***************************************************************************blue****** **************************************************************************************************** *********************and my hat was too small .

OMG a small hat is that all it was

Im just saying, if I were having my toenails ripped out and daily testicular electrocutions, you wouldnt find "there are no DVD players" anywhere in my complaint. It makes one at least question the drumbeat of torture allegations. "Well, they were burning me with cigarette butts in the eyes, oh, and my deodorant wasn't Old Spice!"

Wait, that wasnt obnoxious enough.. .



Jeez, my finger hurts. How much of your day do you spend clicking the same smiley over and over and over.

[Watchman]

Ha ha. He made a funny. Everyone laugh now.

Am I imagining things or could it be that you maybe don't quite grasp what's going on here ?

[IrishArmenian]

Are you kidding, man? Couldn't the constant humiliation and physical pain be more than enough to plea about?

[PanzerJaeger]

Are you kidding, man? Couldn't the constant humiliation and physical pain be more than enough to plea about?

You would think, if that is what is really going on.

[Watchman]

Denial much ?

[doc_bean]

So they found one of the X number of people there who wrote something silly about his shampoo, and they make sure that gets out in the media.

Or they just faked the records.

Seriously, can you burry your heads deeper in the sand ?

[ShadeHonestus]

Is this the equivalent of western civilians taken prisoner in Iraq complaining that the sword with which their head was chopped off with was not sterilized first? Oh wait, they can't complain or release documents censored by the enemy's intelligence agency....they're dead, silly me.

[doc_bean]

Is this the equivalent of western civilians taken prisoner in Iraq complaining that the sword with which their head was chopped off with was not sterilized first? Oh wait, they can't complain or release documents censored by the enemy's intelligence agency....they're dead, silly me.

Weren't most people in Gitmo arrested before the Iraq war ? Or at least before the Isurgency ? Aren't most people in Gitmo from Afghanistan rather then Iraq ?


Besides, most (all ?) people in Gitmo should be considered innocent, since they never ahd a fair trial. Most (nearly all) of them have nothing to do with terrorism, let alone the beheadings in Iraq.


It's like you're blaming the Chinese for Pearl harbour...

[English assassin]

One man not tortured (maybe): torture proved not to exist

I don't have cancer: therefore cancer does not exist.



If our culture gets any more dumb we are going to need to start writing "R" and "L" on our shoes. Or "R" and "The Shoe That Hates Freedom", in some cases.

[Andres]

If our culture gets any more dumb we are going to need to start writing "R" and "L" on our shoes.

You assume too much. Not all of us can read you know...

[macsen rufus]

I can see a likely scenario here: "okay you got complaints, list it all, we'll look at EVERYTHING" ...

Then it goes pretty much as Tribesman said. I'm sure the 39 pages weren't taken out because they listed brand names of scentless deodorants that didn't deserve the free publicity.

A selectively edited text proves nothing, one way or the other. But - to use a phrase I picked up from EnglishAssassin - cui bono?

"The Shoe That Hates Freedom"

[Husar]

If our culture gets any more dumb we are going to need to start writing "R" and "L" on our shoes. Or "R" and "The Shoe That Hates Freedom", in some cases.

I have some expensive socks that say "LEFT" and "RIGHT" on them.
Just go into a sports store, you can find them there.
*thinks of jokes about sportspeople and brains...*

[Fragony]

Unscented deodorant and shampoo, raises the question, who is torturing who?

[Vladimir]

Weren't most people in Gitmo arrested before the Iraq war ? Or at least before the Isurgency ? Aren't most people in Gitmo from Afghanistan rather then Iraq ?


Besides, most (all ?) people in Gitmo should be considered innocent, since they never ahd a fair trial. Most (nearly all) of them have nothing to do with terrorism, let alone the beheadings in Iraq.


It's like you're blaming the Chinese for Pearl harbour...

Most if not all people there can be considered guilty. You don't capture someone shooting and launching RPGs at you and say: "Wait! He needs a fair trial!"

Naive.

[doc_bean]

Most if not all people there can be considered guilty. You don't capture someone shooting and launching RPGs at you and say: "Wait! He needs a fair trial!"

Naive.

Err...alot (most) of them were civilians at the worng place at the wrong time. You tend to shoot those people with RPGs. And even if you capture them, they'd be actual POWs, something the US administrations doesn't seem to agree with.

[HoreTore]

He needs the Geneva conventions, not a fair trial....

[Vladimir]

He needs the Geneva conventions, not a fair trial....

Sure, if they applied. I can't go shoot up a Russian military base and expect them.