Valuing Genocide

[Watchman]

genocide
1944, apparently coined by Polish-born U.S. jurist Raphael Lemkin in his work "Axis Rule in Occupied Europe" [p.19], in reference to Nazi extermination of Jews, lit. "killing a tribe," from Gk. genos "race, kind" (see genus) + -cide, from L. -cidere "kill," comb. form of caedere "to cut, kill" (see concise). The proper formation would be *genticide.

From Online Etymology Dictionary. And "genus" is

(pl. genera), 1551 as a term of logic (biological sense dates from 1608), from L. genus (gen. generis) "race, stock, kind," cognate with Gk. genos "race, kind," and gonos "birth, offspring, stock," from PIE base *gen-/*gon-/*gn- "produce, beget, be born" (cf. Skt. janati "begets, bears," janah "race," jatah "born;" Avestan zizanenti "they bear;" Gk. gignesthai "to become, happen;" L. gignere "to beget," gnasci "to be born," genius "procreative divinity, inborn tutelary spirit, innate quality," ingenium "inborn character," germen "shoot, bud, embryo, germ;" Lith. gentis "kinsmen;" Goth. kuni "race;" O.E. cennan "beget, create;" O.H.G. kind "child;" O.Ir. ro-genar "I was born;" Welsh geni "to be born").

...so, no. It would be a most heinous violent persecution and mass murder of an ill-defined group of people based on their beliefs, however.

And feel free to try to define "radical" in this context with any degree of operative usefulness. Wears a beard ?

Why the flying spagehitti monster of course.

Right. Now, kids, what do we call people who encourage the extermination of entire populaces on the basis that some crackpot supernatural entity told them so ? Yes, you with the cap. Dangerous religious fanatics and general basket cases ? Right you are, sit down.

It bites both ways, you know.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

wouldn't that just radicalise all of Islam and just about all of the world

No as if they radicalised they would be dead.

Right. Now, kids, what do we call people who encourage the extermination of entire populaces on the basis that some crackpot supernatural entity told them so ? Yes, you with the cap. Dangerous religious fanatics and general basket cases ? Right you are, sit down.

It bites both ways, you know.

It seems sarcasm is lost on you. Lighten up a bit.

And feel free to try to define "radical" in this context with any degree of operative usefulness. Wears a beard ?

One who believes that killing the unbeliever is all fine and well man woman or child.

[Watchman]

It seems sarcasm is lost on you. Lighten up a bit.

What sarcasm ? My question was in no way rhetorical, and I rather fail to see how you could give an answer that did not ultimately amount to as much.

One who believes that killing the unbeliever is all fine and well man woman or child.

Right. And how would you propose to identify those merry fellows once they catch up with the program ?

Plus these days they're mainly occupied with their own "heretics" anyway.

[Tribesman]

No as if they radicalised they would be dead.

So you would have to kill them all just in case they radicaslised .
Are you free-basing again Gawain ?

[Gawain of Orkeny]

What sarcasm ? My question was in no way rhetorical, and I rather fail to see how you could give an answer that did not ultimately amount to as much.

I was being sarcastic about the flying spagehitti monster.

Right. And how would you propose to identify those merry fellows once they catch up with the program ?

Ill give them the benifit of the doubt until proven differrntly. Remember this is hypothetical. Like a story in the bible. Why do you all have to complicate it with reality

So you would have to kill them all just in case they radicaslised .

Dont put ideas in my head

Are you free-basing again Gawain ?

Now was that called for? You know i quit years ago But have you had one too many again ?

[Tribesman]

Now was that called for?

sorry .
its just that your hypothetical is so obviously self defeating I wondered how it had sprung to mind ?

[Gawain of Orkeny]

its just that your hypothetical is so obviously self defeating I wondered how it had sprung to mind ?

Its not self defeating. The whole world would attack this nation not just us and they would be wiped out to a man. No one to retaliate. Its strictly hypothetical. Theres a huge IF in there in case any of you didnt realise it. I know its not possible lol.

[Watchman]

I was being sarcastic about the flying spagehitti monster.

Which is about what any conceivable source for the certain fact about bringing about world peace and free popcorns for everyone would amount to, as far as credibility goes.
Methinks your hypotethical scenario has a big hole in it - could probably fit that proverbial camel through, actually.

[Tribesman]

Methinks your hypotethical scenario has a big hole in it

A hole that would fit several hypothetical camels and a whole herd of elephants too .

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Methinks your hypotethical scenario has a big hole in it - could probably fit that proverbial camel through, actually.

Again your just complicating things. I asked a simple question, If wipping out a certain race nation or ideology would garuntee world peace forever would you favor it, Its a simple yes or no question. There are no holes in it. No maybes. No other what ifs. You wipe them out no more wars. Forever.