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    Default Re: Are the Romans too Powerful?

    i am thinking that romans aint that powerful if they do not have that 12 armor,armor piercing pila and swordarm......and every romans unit have better morale than other factions.....romans unit can fight without general.

    coz i have try to playing Brutii in different way,since the Brutii are so rich,then i decide to using numbers to overwhelm every faction of the campaign.............(just like the zerg overwhelming those terrans with zerglings)(it is fun to see my enemy killing a lot of my troops but still get exterminated=overwhelming!unstoppable!!!i am going to use eastern infantry next time)

    i have use town watch as my regular infantry,but seem the town watch are too weak for combat and it's morale are too low to prolonged their combat,then i decide to build temple of Mars=3 exp(1exp give 1 morale bonus) and 1 morale bonus=give 4 morale bonus(since Mars also got increase tradeable goods by 2 compare to Mercury).And i am using generals with morale boost retinue and traits to boost town watch low morale...

    my town watch have fight greek armour hoplites,hoplites,militia hoplites and spartans..
    Fighting militia hoplite is easy,same armor,easy kill...hoplites?slower a bit than militia since only 6 armor,spartans same with hoplite just take out a lot of my troops...then armoured hoplites,that is pain in the ass,i can't even take down 1 unit of armoured hoplites with 20 units town watch surrounding it WITHIN 30 MINUTES!!!(those hoplites are using phalanxe formation)
    I flank them on their side and their back do me no good,those armoured hoplites keep falling and keep stand up and fight!( there is a 10 command star general leading my town watch)time end!always got 10 to 20 leftovers,then i decide to use auxilia,finally it finish the job,just a little bit faster......
    then facing Julii's legions,still same,town watch can't kill them in time,auxilia finish the job,of coz with high casualties too!

    i do custom battle,1 general,4 militia,against 1 legion.results=1 militia rout with 20men left,another militia rout the legion(legion left 10 men) with only 30-40 men lost,the miliita hoplite can kill legion very fast too without flanking move(face to face) with just swordarm not phalanxe,but town watch just a little bit faster than campaign battle...

    my conclusion here is it seem when they reach more than 10 armor,it is impossible to using spears to against them.....
    it explain a lot why my parthians hillmen can't hurt those legions while militia hoplites can....and it explain a lot why barbarian light warband(short spear warband)can take many hastati and principles with them but not legion with lorica segmenta armor(12 armor)
    Even those phalanxe pikemen that using swordarm in my old Seleucid campaign can beat legion,if they(phalanxe pikemen) can have higher morale then they can fight longer even without general....(legion got 10 morale while phalanxe pikemen have 4 only)

    1 of my custom battle,gladiators vs gladiators,free at will,i use Scipii mirmillo(weapon=spear),i wait and let Julii samnite(weapon=sword) fight with Brutii velites(weapon=spear),samnites take out velites easily fight with my mirmillo,my mirmillo wins,but with high casualties

    note:all my units oredi have silver equipments(level 2 weapons and level 2 armor)
    Last edited by guineawolf; 05-29-2007 at 11:33.
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