Your views on this PC please! :-)

[YAKOBU]

Hello again everybody.

Not being an IT wizard and taking all your comments on this and other threads into account I believe I am looking for the following characteristics:

Core 2 Duo/Quad E6400-E6800
1 to 2 GIG RAM
GForce 7600-8800 or ATI 1950.

On PC World in the UK we have an HP A6090 at a whopping £1,079.99:

Features for this HP A6090

- Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E6700
- Genuine Windows Vista(TM) Home Premium
- 2048MB RAM Memory
- 320GB Hard Drive
- Dual Layer DVD ReWriter Drive
- 512MB ATI Radeon 1650SE DVI Graphics
- Built-in TV Tuner + Remote Control
- Wireless Keyboard and Mouse
- 15-In-1 Media Card Reader
- 22" Widescreen AOC TFT Monitor

Specification for this HP A6090

Processor Type Intel Core 2 Duo E6700
Clock-Speed 2.66GHz
Front Side BUS 1066MHz
Cache 4 MB
Operating-System Windows Vista Home Premium
RAM Memory 2048 MB
Hard Disk Capacity 320 Gb
Optical Drive 1 Dual Layer DVD Re-Writer Drive
Built-in TV Tuner Yes
Built-in Digital TV Tuner Yes
Remote Control Yes
Graphics Memory 512 dedicated up to 1280 MB
Graphics Description ATI Radeon 1650SE DVI
Sound Card Intel High Definition Audio 7.1
Media Card Reader 15-in-1
No of USB connections 6
No of PCI Slots 3
No. of Firewire Connections 2
Keyboard Yes
Wireless Keyboard and Mouse Yes
Mouse Yes
Weight 9.6 kg
Height 414 mm
Width 175 mm
Depth 387 mm


Would this do the job? Are there areas where I could save cash? I don't plan on buying my PC from PC World but just want an idea of what I am looking for.

Cheers in advance!

[YAKOBU]

Also can anyone take a look at this site and give me their impression:

http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/index.php?page=results

Looks like they will build a PC so much cheaper than PC world prices.

[DukeofSerbia]

Also can anyone take a look at this site and give me their impression:

http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/index.php?page=results

Looks like they will build a PC so much cheaper than PC world prices.

Not bad, but you should check on some forums how good they are.


This is my choise build on their site. They have bad choise of cases and PSUs. I don't know what manufacturers they sell. The same story with hard drives, graphics cards, optical drives...

Processor (CPU)


AMD ATHLON™ 64 X2 3800+ (2.0GHz) 2 x 512K L2 Cache (Socket AM2)

Memory (RAM)


2048 MB CORSAIR DDR2 800MHz - LIFETIME WARRANTY! (2x1GB)

Motherboard


ASUS M2N DH: DUAL DDR II, SATA, x16 slot, 3 PCI ETC

Operating System


WINDOWS® VISTA Home Premium (inc Genuine CD & License) (£70)

USB Options


6 x USB 2.0 PORTS (4 REAR + 2 FRONT) AS STANDARD

Memory - 1st Hard Disk


400GB SERIAL ATA II HARD DRIVE WITH 16MB CACHE (7200rpm)

2nd Hard Disk


NONE

RAID (HDD 1 & 2)


NONE

1st CD/DVD Drive


20x DVD±RW/RAM/Dual Layer + Lightscribe (48 x CD-RW) (£16)

2nd CD/DVD Drive


NONE

Graphics Card


512MB GEFORCE 8600GT PCI Express + DVI + TV-OUT

2nd Graphics Card


NONE

Sound Card


6 Channel SoundMAX High Definition Audio (Onboard)

Modem


NONE, I WILL BE USING BROADBAND

Network Facilities


Onboard Wireless 54 Mbps LAN (802.11g) & Gigabit LAN

Floppy Disk Drive


1.44MB - 3.5" Floppy Disk Drive

Memory Card Reader


INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER (READS XD, MS, CF, SD, etc)

Case


Stylish Black/Silver Trident case + 2 front USB

Power Supply & Case Cooling


500W (Peak) Quiet Dual Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan (£25)

Processor Cooling


STANDARD CPU COOLER

Firewire & Video Editing


NONE

TV Card


NONE

Monitor


WIDE 19 INCH TFT Silver/Black 1440 x 900 8MS, D-Sub, Audio (£109)

2nd Monitor


NONE

DVI Cable


NONE

Keyboard & Mouse


Logitech® Internet Keyboard + Hotkeys (Black) (£6)

Mouse


Black Logitech® Premium Optical Mouse (£4)

Speakers


NONE

Printer


NONE

Surge Protection


Belkin 4 Socket 2M Surge Protector with Phone Protection! (£7)

Webcam & VoIP


NONE

Media Center Kit


NONE

Anti-Virus


NONE

Office Software


NONE

Warranty


2 Year Return-to-Base incl 2 Years Free Collect & Return: £69

Delivery


Standard Insured Delivery to UK Mainland (Mon-Fri 8am-6pm) (Free)

Quantity


1

£742 inc VAT and Delivery.

If you want to spend more money, I will put better machine (btw I am AMD fan, but I can create you Intel based system withour problems). And you need speakers.

[Slug For A Butt]

And if you want to spend less than 3/4 of a thousand pounds on a machine to play M2TW there are better options I think.

[Papewaio]

Can you assemble lego?

Then you can build your own PC.

You'll get something better, faster, cheaper and incidentally far more satisfying then buying from a large bulk wholesaler.

The only time you can do better is one of the smaller (and highly competitive) mum and pop stores... and then the best thing to do as always is shop around and/or talk to mates who have bought from them.

Brand name adds cost as people believe what happened in the past will happen in the future... Dell is a good example of paying through the nose for brand id.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

£742 inc VAT and Delivery.

Looks mighty overpriced to me. Heck put that card in the PC I posted for under $1000 and it will blow that rig away and still be cheaper. Or is it you Brits just get ripped off over there? Isnt that like $1500? You should see what I got for that price.

[DukeofSerbia]

I think all of you three misunderstand me. YAKOBU asked for help in this thread, and only what happened is that people wrote theoretical, and still people do it.

And if you want to spend less than 3/4 of a thousand pounds on a machine to play M2TW there are better options I think.

Than help YAKOBU. He left link, and I checked. For me, price is fair.

Can you assemble lego?

Then you can build your own PC.

You'll get something better, faster, cheaper and incidentally far more satisfying then buying from a large bulk wholesaler.

The only time you can do better is one of the smaller (and highly competitive) mum and pop stores... and then the best thing to do as always is shop around and/or talk to mates who have bought from them.

Brand name adds cost as people believe what happened in the past will happen in the future... Dell is a good example of paying through the nose for brand id.

I didn’t know that wholesalers sell goods to ordinary people. Do you mean large retailers?

[IMO, large brand names (like Dell) are excellent choice for companies, but for home usage I don’t think so.]

Looks mighty overpriced to me. Heck put that card in the PC I posted for under $1000 and it will blow that rig away and still be cheaper. Or is it you Brits just get ripped off over there? Isnt that like $1500? You should see what I got for that price.

Not to me. £742 is ~1083 euros. The same machine cost a bit more in Serbia, which is fine, as prices of hardware at us are 5-10% higher than in the rest of Europe.

You Americans have cheapest prices in the world, especially hardware and software, and we all know why that is. So, comparing US prices with European is not relevant. Your proposed Alienware doesn’t have the same price in USA and the rest of the world ;).

[DukeofSerbia]

Hallo.

Hello again everybody.

Not being an IT wizard and taking all your comments on this and other threads into account I believe I am looking for the following characteristics:

Core 2 Duo/Quad E6400-E6800
1 to 2 GIG RAM
GForce 7600-8800 or ATI 1950.

On PC World in the UK we have an HP A6090 at a whopping £1,079.99:

Features for this HP A6090

- Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E6700
- Genuine Windows Vista(TM) Home Premium
- 2048MB RAM Memory
- 320GB Hard Drive
- Dual Layer DVD ReWriter Drive
- 512MB ATI Radeon 1650SE DVI Graphics
- Built-in TV Tuner + Remote Control
- Wireless Keyboard and Mouse
- 15-In-1 Media Card Reader
- 22" Widescreen AOC TFT Monitor

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/sto...ory_oid=-27743

I'll be honest: this computer is good business and multimedia machine, BUT terrible gaming platform. Radeon 1650SE is junk graphics card (again junk).

Would this do the job? Are there areas where I could save cash? I don't plan on buying my PC from PC World but just want an idea of what I am looking for.

Cheers in advance!

As I said, for gaming is terrible. Lower processor to at least 6600 or even 6400, and put better graphics, at least Radeon X1950Pro.

And no speakers!