Best in class - by faction

**Shahed** · 05-17-2007, 02:20

All my recommendations are based on 1.20 + Carl's Fixer 1.14 OR any other combination of fixes and stat rebalance. Most will apply to vanilla 1.20 as well. Except for the assault/anti cavalry class. I will classify by period. These periods represent your military development rather than a specific date. If anyone wants a reason for these choices, just ask.

HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE

EARLY
Cavalry: Mailed Knights.
Missile: None.
Artillery: Ballistae.
Assault/Anti Cavalry: Halberd Militia_Chain Mail.
Swords: Dismounted Feudal Knights.
Spears: Spear Militia_Padded.

HIGH
Cavalry: Teutonic Knights.
Missile: Crossbow Militia_Chain Mail.
Artillery: Ballistae, Trebuchet.
Assault: Zweihander.
Anti-Cavary/Assault Support: Mounted Imperial Knights, Halberd Militia_Heavy Mail.
Swords: Dismounted Feudal Knights.
Spears: Sargeant Spearmen_Heavy Mail.

LATE
Cavalry: Teutonic Knights.
Missile: Pavise Crossbowmen_Chain Mail.
Artillery: Ballistae, Trebuchet.
Assault: Dismounted Gothic Knights.
Anti-Cavalry/Assault Support: Mounted Gothic Knights, Zweihander.
Swords: None.
Spears: Armored Sargeants_Heavy Mail.

GUNPOWDER
Cavalry: Teutonic Knights.
Missile Cavalry: Reiters.
Missile: Arqbusiers.
Anti Personnel Artillery: Serpentine.
Heavy Artillery/Anti Personnel Artillery Support: Basilisk.
Assault: Dismounted Gothic Knights, Folorn Hope.
Anti Cavalry/Assault Support: Mounted Gothic Knights, Zweihander.
Swords: None.
Spears: None.
Pikemen: Pike Militia.

**Kobal2fr** · 05-17-2007, 04:51

BTW Sinan, what does "Ruhm ehre Vaterland" mean ? I know "Vaterland" means "home" (well, "the land of our fathers" really), so I assumed it meant "for our homeland !", but "our" would be "unsere" or something like that wouldn't it ? (I never could get the hang of German declensions)

Plus of course, the sentence lacks its usual German ending : "wird geworden werden zu sein gewerden haben"

**Shahed** · 05-17-2007, 04:59

ROFL !!! LMFAO !!!

Ruhm = Honneur = Honor
Ehre = Célèbre/Fameux (sp?) / Renomeé = Renown/Fame
Vaterland = Pays = Fatherland

Hey Kobal can you post some replays here s.t.p ?

**Flavius Merobaudes** · 05-17-2007, 06:22

Nearly correct:

Ruhm = Fame
Ehre = Honor
Vaterland = Fatherland

**sapi** · 05-17-2007, 08:22

Byzantines

Spear: Dismounted lankiton
Sword: Byz inf/varangian (former for defensive operations, the later for aggressive)
Cav: vards
Missile: Byz guard archers (<< excellent melee infantry too)

**Daveybaby** · 05-17-2007, 10:12

Russia is tricky, cos they have a pretty different unit roster to most other factions.

Spear.... um... it'll have to be bog standard spearmen i guess, since there isnt much else to choose from. Not that i ever actually use them.
Sword... um... there arent any

Missile Inf : Dismounted Dvor
Melee Inf : Dismounted Dvor

Missile Cav : Dvor

Heavy Cav : Tsars Guard
Shock Troops : Berdiche Axemen

I should also put in a word for boyar sons, who are astoundingly powerful early on, especially for taking out enemy heavy cav / bodyguards.

And for kazakhs, who are crap on paper but very cheap and actually very useful missile cav.

And woodsmen, who are the cheapest unit in the game, yet have 13AP attack +4 charge bonus.

I love playing russia.

**darth_napo** · 05-17-2007, 12:42

Order of Knights Templar (Stainless Steel 3.2)

Knights Hospitallers
Turkopoles
Dismounted Knights Hospitallers
Swiss Guards
Muslim Archers
Arquebuisers

that lineup owns all :D:lol: