the get screwed formula

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Thought I might add that I doubt loosing a campaign is likely in M2TW especially for someone who has played RTW. I'm 100 turns into a HRE campaign and these are the annoyances I've seen so far.

Keep getting the blockade Caen port mission even though I fail everytime. Since the English have a huge fleet of at least 4 nearly full stacks patrolling the area I don't even try. 4 out of the 5 missions were in a row. How annoying not to get another type of mission!

100 turns into the campaign and no crusade! 4 or was it 5 times in a row the pope dies and crusade cancelled all within 3 turns of a crusade being called. How bloody annoying. Will I ever see the Holy city FFS.

recruited 40+ merchants and none have survived more than 4 turns in the wild. Ok, I did try to transport 6 across to Africa from Ajaccio but my 6 stack cog got surrounded by enemy ships which weren't even allied and sunk in one hit (remeber this happening in RTW). Cheating, damn I wish I had naval engagements going in my favour like that. How annoying.

Am I the only one getting this type of nonsense. Not even considering diplomacy or AI.

Other than traits all this is mostly hardcoded and can't be modded AFAIK

[Durallan]

Thought I might add that I doubt loosing a campaign is likely in M2TW especially for someone who has played RTW. I'm 100 turns into a HRE campaign and these are the annoyances I've seen so far.

Keep getting the blockade Caen port mission even though I fail everytime. Since the English have a huge fleet of at least 4 nearly full stacks patrolling the area I don't even try. 4 out of the 5 missions were in a row. How annoying not to get another type of mission!

100 turns into the campaign and no crusade! 4 or was it 5 times in a row the pope dies and crusade cancelled all within 3 turns of a crusade being called. How bloody annoying. Will I ever see the Holy city FFS.

recruited 40+ merchants and none have survived more than 4 turns in the wild. Ok, I did try to transport 6 across to Africa from Ajaccio but my 6 stack cog got surrounded by enemy ships which weren't even allied and sunk in one hit (remeber this happening in RTW). Cheating, damn I wish I had naval engagements going in my favour like that. How annoying.

Am I the only one getting this type of nonsense. Not even considering diplomacy or AI.

Other than traits all this is mostly hardcoded and can't be modded AFAIK

wow I never knew you had such problems! I'm amazed the english can support such a large navy, I haven't played 1.2 patched yet but not played a game like that yet! my comiserations :)

[Nebuchadnezzar]

wow I never knew you had such problems! I'm amazed the english can support such a large navy, I haven't played 1.2 patched yet but not played a game like that yet! my comiserations :)

Ohh no! You are going to tell me that your playing on med aren't you? b/c I just don't believe that I'm the only one getting this.

A bit exaggerated with the English navy, its a couple nearly three quarter full and a couple of halfs from what limited vision I can see. But the Danes have only 2 cities and a much bigger navy still. The benefits of playing VH

In my game as the danes

the scottish turn up and seige oslow (norway) ever 3 turns, then ask for a cease fire - rinse repeat

the english turn up every 3 turns and seige Hamburg, then ask for cease fire - rinse repeat

without fail this will happen every three turns, again and again and again

VH-VH 1.2 vanilla

the first 50 times its was mildly amusing, now I just wait there for them (*bored*) - last battle the english turned up with a stack of family members, including their king and seige equiptment (cataplts etc) only - needless to say I wiped out the english blood line for the next 1000 years, the scotts turned up and sacrificed their king too

I think by very hard what they meant is very hard to stop the AI losing

a strategy of attacking the human player no matter what - is not a good strategy - the AI of this game fails at playing 'the game' how is that even possible

Yeah, I know. I also own Oslo and Scotts turn up every 2nd or 3rd turn for the compulsory seigefest.

I just took a screenie of them pushing a ram away from my city to god knows where. I think they wanted to leave the battle map with it or something.

[Csargo]

I just took a screenie of them pushing a ram away from my city to god knows where. I think they wanted to leave the battle map with it or something.

That was a French group of soldiers who took two ladders down from the wall and started walking away with them. I've also had what you said happen to me except they marched to almost the edge of the map with a battering ram, then turned around and came back. It's sad but I couldn't stop laughing. Needless to say the siege AI doesn't seem to be too smart.

[Shahed]

ROFL ! That's hilarious !

Well I need to clarify something because my initial post might give the wrong impression.

I DO enjoy vanilla BUT I prefer a fixed game (2H working, VnV fixed, highways, Eastern Princesses, more and new SKINS, bigger map, more settlements etc etc). I prefer playing the game like that.

Actually check this, imagine you had a Monster Bombard at the town square (image from .com):

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Sadly the defender does'nt even have a pistol let alone a bombard.

[Yun Dog]

LMAO


Im surprised though - I thought theyd have been english troops seiging that city - because theyd say 'call that a Queue, Ive seen bigger than that waiting for the urinal at the local pub' - those people are the queing masters





edit imagine if you were at the end... you'd be like 'It feels like were moving, maybe we should wait' and 'oh those bloody continentals are letting people jump in at the front'

[Yun Dog]

Thought I might add that I doubt loosing a campaign is likely in M2TW especially for someone who has played RTW. I'm 100 turns into a HRE campaign and these are the annoyances I've seen so far.

Keep getting the blockade Caen port mission even though I fail everytime. Since the English have a huge fleet of at least 4 nearly full stacks patrolling the area I don't even try. 4 out of the 5 missions were in a row. How annoying not to get another type of mission!

100 turns into the campaign and no crusade! 4 or was it 5 times in a row the pope dies and crusade cancelled all within 3 turns of a crusade being called. How bloody annoying. Will I ever see the Holy city FFS.

recruited 40+ merchants and none have survived more than 4 turns in the wild. Ok, I did try to transport 6 across to Africa from Ajaccio but my 6 stack cog got surrounded by enemy ships which weren't even allied and sunk in one hit (remeber this happening in RTW). Cheating, damn I wish I had naval engagements going in my favour like that. How annoying.

Am I the only one getting this type of nonsense. Not even considering diplomacy or AI.

Other than traits all this is mostly hardcoded and can't be modded AFAIK

In my game as the danes

the scottish turn up and seige oslow (norway) ever 3 turns, then ask for a cease fire - rinse repeat

the english turn up every 3 turns and seige Hamburg, then ask for cease fire - rinse repeat

without fail this will happen every three turns, again and again and again

VH-VH 1.2 vanilla

the first 50 times its was mildly amusing, now I just wait there for them (*bored*) - last battle the english turned up with a stack of family members, including their king and seige equiptment (cataplts etc) only - needless to say I wiped out the english blood line for the next 1000 years, the scotts turned up and sacrificed their king too

I think by very hard what they meant is very hard to stop the AI losing

a strategy of attacking the human player no matter what - is not a good strategy - the AI of this game fails at playing 'the game' how is that even possible