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    Default V&V 1.02 patch bugged???

    I D/L'ed the v&v patch for 1.2 the other day from FactionHeir's sig. (Thanks man!!) Fired it up using the "_io file first" shortcut that I have. But when I got to the campaign map there was alot of information missing.

    Like the price of a particular building, and the name of my family members...stuff like that. It dosent make the game unplayabe are anything. And its not like I dont know what the prices are for a particular building, well a ballpark price anyway. Anyhow I went back and just fired up vanilla again to see if it was the game itself an not the patch but vanilla was just fine. It dosent kill me to not have the v&v patch but it would be nice.

    Just thought I'd bring this up if it hasent been posted already. Mod's if I put this post in the wrong place feel free to do what you have to do

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    Default Re: V&V 1.02 patch bugged???

    That's odd. Myself and the other people in the PBM have had no issues with this.
    Are you sure you don't have any additional files in either data or data\text folder? Because if you do, those also get activated by io.file_first.
    Have you made any changes to your 1.02 after initially installing it other than the fixes?
    Are you certain your 1.02 install is full and not partial (as is often the case?)
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    Default Re: V&V 1.02 patch bugged???

    Hmm.....

    Well as far as additional files I will have to wade through the data/text files I suppose And I know that the only thing I added was the V&V fix after I got 1.2. I am pretty sure that it is a full install. How would I find out if its a partial install? I assume that a partial install would adversely affect vanilla 1.2, but I dont see any problems there.

    Thanks for the response BTW FartionHeir


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    Default Re: V&V 1.02 patch bugged???

    Shot in the dark, but are you using a no-cd crack?

    @FH - are all your files updated (knowing you, I'm sure they are, though)...
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    Default Re: V&V 1.02 patch bugged???

    Mine as all fine. Ask the PBM crew that are also using them ;)

    And yes, its probably a crack Phog is using. Other reports of crack usage also seem to result in this tooltip issue.
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    Default Re: V&V 1.02 patch bugged???

    i installed the latest patch and when i went to play a saved game, i, too, did not have the cost of buildings or units and when i clicked for a new turn, the game hung up on spain.
    i uninstalled the game and re-installed for a clean start, and again, it hung up on spain.
    ant ideas?

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    Default Re: V&V 1.02 patch bugged???

    Quote Originally Posted by stratjim
    i installed the latest patch and when i went to play a saved game, i, too, did not have the cost of buildings or units and when i clicked for a new turn, the game hung up on spain.
    i uninstalled the game and re-installed for a clean start, and again, it hung up on spain.
    ant ideas?
    This seems rather unrelated to the issue at hand. Please create your own topic or search for a recent solution to your same problem in the Citadel or the Apothecary.
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    Default Re: V&V 1.02 patch bugged???

    I knew that would come up... nope, no CD crack for me. In fact, like most TW Veterans I have everything from STW to M2TW on CD. A no-CD crack kinda' seemed pointless to me personaly. I can provide you with screenshots is you want to look those over, just let me know and I will snap a few.


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    Default Re: V&V 1.02 patch bugged???

    Hmm I remember reading the other day about someone who also had a no tooltip issue that was related to his ATI graphics card and updating drivers fixed it. Forgot which sub forum it was in though.

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    Try this one: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=85008
    Last edited by FactionHeir; 05-20-2007 at 16:08.
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    Default Re: V&V 1.02 patch bugged???

    Hmm...that could be the ticket.

    Its been a while since I updated my Vid drivers anyway. But, vanilla works just fine, how would a V&V fix make all the informational tips go away. I am going to post some screens in a little bit and then go search for drivers.


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    Default Re: V&V 1.02 patch bugged???

    Well its probably not the VnV fix as the tooltips for buildings are in a completely different file. The only tooltips the VnV fix touches are the ones you get when hovering your mouse over a trait/ancillary.

    You can also try putting other files into your data and text folders without the VnV fix in and run file_first. Chances are you'd still not get tooltips.

    See if the link does anything to fix your probs.
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    Default Re: V&V 1.02 patch bugged???

    I just noticed that the GoodTaxman trait triggers for GovernorLoyaltyLevel = loyalty_disillusioned . Shouldn't that be ">"?

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    Default Re: V&V 1.02 patch bugged???

    Just tryed my old launcher for data files, and I'm having the same problem. Also running a raddeon x1900.

    Curious do you need to run the unpacker again after patch 1.2?
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    Default Re: V&V 1.02 patch bugged???

    If you want access to the 1.2 files then yes.

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    Default Re: V&V 1.02 patch bugged???

    Here are some screens from my current French conquest:

    Well I cant post screens as a Jr. Member....ah well, that's what I get for letting my previous member acct. lapse.

    Anyway I seem to be having a problem getting them into Photobucket. It wont take them as .tga and it wont upload the image if I change it to a .jpg or .bmp, so. Off to the Search bar I go!!!!!!!


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    Default Re: V&V 1.02 patch bugged???

    Quote Originally Posted by Lusted
    If you want access to the 1.2 files then yes.
    Well that blows, fanciful dreams that the patch would automatically update the text files.

    ~Edit, got it to work. It's neither the drivers or a patch problem. Just re unpack all the files after patching up to 1.2 and it will start working.
    Last edited by BigTex; 05-20-2007 at 19:02.
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    Default Re: V&V 1.02 patch bugged???

    Maybe now it works:


    As you can see lots of info missing


    Not a deal breaker but annoying none the less.


    *See comment above*


    The prices are there but I would like the rest of the information and tooltips


    Unit stats plz


    And an agent screen. I also thought the description of Corrupt was funny

    So there you have it. I did see Big Tex's post before I posted these but I wanted to get the screens up so that anyone who sees this post in the future can get an idea of what the problem was. Man, unpacking that file takes forever.


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    Default Re: V&V 1.02 patch bugged???

    I think BigTex posts are unrelated to this particular problem, although I might be wrong.

    Interesting screens. No idea what's causing it, but I know its not the fixes. Try running your game with file_first but without the 5 files from my pack and what happens. Maybe its an issue with your game and file_first
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    Default Re: V&V 1.02 patch bugged???

    Yeah, unfortunatly I have lost my M2TW backup. It's somewhere, but I just cant find it. I probably will just do a wipe and fresh install of M2TW beta....er 1.0 I mean and then get the V&V fix. I'll let you know if I have any problems. And anyone else that might be having this same problem or has a suggestion just say so.


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