Another reason not to vote.

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Once again, it looks like you're going to have to rely on the Lords to toss this bill right back.

The real trouble is that politicians know they can get away with this because nobody really cares. Unless the news was tattooed across the assets of the Page 3 girl, most voters will skip right past this to the FA Cup report.

Yes, sadly your words are all too true. The majority are probably more interested in the latest Eastenders or Coronation St sensationalist storyline than Brown succeeding Blair. Due to this ignorance Labour can basically get away with murder in today's political climate so long as they don't hit big business.

I say revoke the parliament act and every law since WWII.

It's just been down hill for the last 60 years really. Although you can't blame the politicians alone. How can you be enthusiastic about a country which once ruled over a quater of the globe whos' wealth and military might made it feared and respected the world over but which can now no longer even manage to define it's own culture.

Britain is dieing and I can't really blame those who want to make some money before we slide down the plug hole.

The problem I have is working out how to stop us sliding down that dank drain pipe known as oblivion.

I agree. The British have no national pride, because they no longer have any culture. This has been long since sterilised and neutralised out of existence.

The tiny bit of nationalistic pride that remains surfaces during international sporting events, mainly football, and that's it really. The problem is that for the last few decades we've had nothing but nonsense spouted from the politically correct dept, about just how evil, ignorant and racist the white working class are and how sorry they should be for how they have treated others in the past. National or cultural pride has been portrayed as synonymous with racism and Nazism - so it's just not in fashion and very vulgar, but only in Britain - other countries' nationalism is perfectly acceptable - even to the British - and they don't get their flags taken down by the local coppers. During all of this the country has been rapidly sliding into the abyss of excessive bureaucracy, and social, cultural and industrial disaster. I have never seen such joblessness, crime, vice and poverty.

Wherever you go in the world there are religious, cultural or national days, ceremonies, festivals processions etc. The most notable in England are minority events, not English at all. St George's Day is a non entity that the do-gooders have tried their damnedest to ban altogether in case it upsets Muslims, despite the fact that I've never met a Muslim yet that is upset by St Georges Day celebrations or would be upset by them if they were held.

The populace no longer care, because there is nothing to care about - hence voter apathy. This is why Blair and his clowns have been able to royally ____ up the country since '97 and his predecessors were able to do the same thing before that. They have a free ride at our expense and are loving every minute of it.